Discussion:
Devil Music and Numismatic Sky-God Cults
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SOD of the CoE
2005-02-05 09:48:14 UTC
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RyanS2:
#> If anyone is really impressed by lyrics from rock, country,
#> rap, pop, or any other form of music, they can only be idiots....

LOL!

"user" <***@user.com>:
# I listen to Devil Music rock because I want to

damn straight. Satanic rock is where it's at.
I'm listening to Enya right now. The Celts.
which I don't think of as very Satanic.
I prefer women's voices in music (not surprising).

Black Sabbath (album), rocked. and The Devil
Went Down to Georgia -- well, maybe impression
on lyrics was not the intention. 'twere the fiddlin'.
romantic and machine-gun Metallica, Fripp and Page
have occupied my serious enjoyment in Devil Music.
I don't find that Stones guy too believable. where
experiments in Death or Black failed, as yet (with
Lucifer's help maybe that will change) to inspire,
and I haven't heard much of King Diamond as yet.
Danzig will have to wait, as my fave grotesque
now is Communion Through Dreams of Reckless Sleep

# and none of your articles are going to change it! ;-P

the Devil's tools, toys, and magical weapons are often
superior to the ordinary human's, and even some gods'.
their cassette says

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plus

noct
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# P.s. One Nation UNDER GOD.

some religious *do* have nations. worshippers of sky
gods might like being 'under God' too. universalists
or universe-gods might compel us to rightfully define
the God as issuing the laws of nature by which humans
may exploit and destroy all other beings with currency,
and thereafter compel us to obey and serve the God.

many suggest we are 'under God' (in hierarchy), managing
the Creation (a Steward, which I say deemed ourselves.
gardeners and zookeepers more like it. worse than a
parasite loving basely what it eats (because we are
despoiling and subjecting it to horrors unimagined).
swap out a Hell Bank God *or* an Earth Worship cult
and this might require a change to 'over God'.

disks of metal and paper bills sufficiently mark it as an
intellectual affair. add numbers and symbolism, legalese,
and signatures, pictures. perhaps the sky god intellectuals
are dominating the currency, blessed beast!

boboroshi at-sign satanservice.org: Satanic Outreach Director
Church of Euthanasia: http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/
TOKUS WEBLINKS: http://dmoz.org/Bookmarks/B/boboroshi/
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SOD of the CoE
2005-02-16 08:53:37 UTC
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***@gmail.com:
# Metaphorically, metal almost exactly mirrors Romanticist
# literature, even down to its fascination with nature and the occult.

I hadn't noticed the fascination described. examples???

# ...a post-moralistic sense of seeing how life works rather than
# judging it; wandering into the embrace of Satan affirms the pagan
# belief that there can be no public level of "good" separated from
# "bad," but that good and bad are forces which together create a
# meta-good, mainly the ongoing process of life itself.

it isn't, generally, a pagan belief. it is, however, a part of the
belief of some indigenous cultures. some Taoists think that way,
for example.

<snipping lots of stuff throughout>

# ...Satanism in metal is metaphor. Many of the largest proponents
# of Satanic imagery in metal were Deists and some were Christians,
# but used Satan in a way similar to that of John Milton or
# William Blake to describe the individual Will or Ego; when
# Black Sabbath wrote "War Pigs," and described how modern society
# sends its workers off to die in foreign fields for abstract and
# mostly irrelevant political objectives masking a private reality
# of profit and power, they concluded it with "Satan laughing
# spreads his wings" not to praise Satan but to describe, in
# theological metaphor, what had occurred: humans had confused
# public reality with absolute truth, and thus been manipulated,
# and from that, an inner resentment and fatalism expressed itself
# in the confusion that followed. Satan laughing spreads his wings:
# a statement of the futility of our time,

that's right, it's still an anti-God and soul-Jailer Underworld Lord.
Christians, or those expressing from within a Christian cosmology
wrote those lyrics. Black Sabbath isn't Satanist, generally, but it
marks a certain turning point, with Ozzy Osbourne, of utilizing the
bogey for pop-media purposes. Alice Cooper took it much further,
followed, I'd guess, by Marilyn Manson. surely there are many
others which might be compared, divided along technique lines.

# and in later bands, of the uselessness of religions that conflate
# Absolute truth with the public level of reality.

hopefully.

# ... although I have never been a Satanist, I have often
# employed Satanic and occult imagery in my writing, much
# as the smarter metal bands have done.

"smarter"? less dedicated, less extreme, less committed.

# ...the crowd embraces Satanism as a truth in itself,

few do this except the easily-led, purchase! listen!

# and tries through silly literal rituals and laughable posing
# to be "truer" Satanists that the others, or more "extreme,"
# or some variation of attempting to find a devotional
# truth in life....

general religious striving.

# ...Black Sabbath were more advanced in thought with "Satan
# laughing spreads his wings" than all the goose-stepping
# fools....

quite so, but that's not a very complimentary comparison to
make against Black Sabbath. you've already tainted 'em by
comparing them to Milton, you know.

# ... Satan and gore both wish to affirm natural belief over
# that of the thing-as-named public reality....

Tipper? true biological humility includes bodily fluids.

# This article is not an attempt to discredit or assault bands
# who use Satan as metaphor...

good, because it barely touches them.

# ...It should serve... as ... an explanation of why there are
# so many mediocre imitators, of "Satanist[s]"....

I don't think you touched on Satanism sufficient to call it that.

# ...and only a few leaders, and thus, a mandate for future
# thinkers in this genre to start with the leaders and not the
# followers....

dual-valence spectacles in your universe. people are leaders or
they are followers. I propose another category: anarchists.
demonologists, blessed beast!

boboroshi at-sign satanservice.org: Satanic Outreach Director
Church of Euthanasia: http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/
TOKUS WEBLINKS: http://dmoz.org/Bookmarks/B/boboroshi/
Ninth Scholar's Library (Satanism Archive): http://www.satanservice.org/
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