Discussion:
Spokesperson of COS needed (Was: Re: PURGING TALON NOW ACCEPTS FOREIGN PAYPAL ORDERS)
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Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-17 10:40:46 UTC
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Hello Matt,

Boboroshi (Nagasiva) (who archives these things) and some others are having
a dispute about Anton LaVey and his stance on drugs, and whether or not he
ever used them. Bobo brings up that he had hash pipes. I mentioned that he
collected such things only. I also pulled up a few of his statements
against drugs, where I could easily find them. Someone else pulled up a
LaVey statement from the SW indicating that he condoned the use of drugs.

Here is what I have - I include only right now the latest in the testimony
regarding the Church of Satan's Council of Nine. :

ASL AND DRUGS:



COS by BB page 103 quoting LaVey, "Taking drugs is another issue the
public seems to wrongly associate with modern diabolical rites. In his
description for the purpose of the Ninth Enochian Key, LaVey states that
it, 'warns of the use of substances, devices or pharmaceuticals which might
lead to the delusion and subsequent enslavement of the master.' Contrary to
religious propaganda, drugs are not part of Satanic ceremonies or lifestyles
because, [LaVey claims] Satanists want to heighten their senses, not dull
them." "We resist mindlessness of any kind. Again, drugs, like television,
are fine for other people. The more enslaved they are, the easier it is for
us, as long as they stay out of our way. " Definitive statement against
drug use by LaVey. The statement about the Enochian key appears in English
on the page prior to the Key.



"A black mass, today, would consist of the blaspheming of such 'sacred'
topics as Eastern mysticism, psychiatry, the psychedelic movement,
ultra-liberalism, etc. Patriotism would be championed, ***drugs and their
gurus would be defiled***, acultural militants would be deified and the
decadence of ecclesiastical theologies might even be given a Satanic boost."
page 101 SB, shows you what he thought of these things, including drugs and
drug pushers and liberalism - and patriotism!



However, this new testimony posted today would prove, once again, that all
LaVeyans including LaVey are LIARS and HYPOCRITES:



"Funny how I have indulged in marijuana, absinthe, mushrooms and other drugs
with a (Church of Satan ) council of nine member. So it seems the CoS may
put on a public face that it doesn't like drugs, but many of it's members do
and the CoS powers that be have a blind eye to it. Actions speak louder than
words."

--Douglas of Dagon Productions - former heroin addict and sexual
self-mutilator.



We can then take it on this hard proof that they lie to the public, that
they also actully condone and turn a blind eye to pedophilia (two of their
Priests were arrested for it and one of them was made into a Priest after
having already been charged with child molestation (William Gidney and
Thomas Blumenthal). We can also take it that they lie to the public and
turn a blind eye toward human sacrifice, since LaVey in the SB has a chapter
on choosing a human sacrifice and only puts that it is supposed to be
symbolic in parantheses.



REPLY. You are a COS spokesperson. How about speaking up?



"Magister Matt G. Paradise" <***@purgingtalon.com> wrote in message news:2005011622303816807%***@purgingtaloncom...
Tom
2005-01-17 23:00:55 UTC
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Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Boboroshi (Nagasiva) (who archives these things) and some others are having
a dispute about Anton LaVey and his stance on drugs, and whether or not he
ever used them. Bobo brings up that he had hash pipes. I mentioned that he
collected such things only.
Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't a
cop.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
I also pulled up a few of his statements
against drugs, where I could easily find them. Someone else
pulled up a LaVey statement from the SW indicating that he
condoned the use of drugs.
So you can't trust what he says. What a surprise that is. Heh.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
COS by BB page 103 quoting LaVey, "Taking drugs is another issue the
public seems to wrongly associate with modern diabolical rites. In his
description for the purpose of the Ninth Enochian Key, LaVey states that
it, 'warns of the use of substances, devices or pharmaceuticals which might
lead to the delusion and subsequent enslavement of the master.' Contrary to
religious propaganda, drugs are not part of Satanic ceremonies or lifestyles
because, [LaVey claims] Satanists want to heighten their senses, not dull
them." "We resist mindlessness of any kind. Again, drugs, like television,
are fine for other people. The more enslaved they are, the easier it is for
us, as long as they stay out of our way. " Definitive statement against
drug use by LaVey. The statement about the Enochian key appears in English
on the page prior to the Key.
So the Church of Satan demands that its members can't watch television
either?

Bunch of fucking fruitcakes, seems to me.
Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-18 07:55:19 UTC
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Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Boboroshi (Nagasiva) (who archives these things) and some others are
having
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
a dispute about Anton LaVey and his stance on drugs, and whether or not he
ever used them. Bobo brings up that he had hash pipes. I mentioned that
he
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
collected such things only.
Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't a
cop.
Not so - I know an elderly fellow that has collected such paraphenalia of
many sorts, including strange shot glasses from a bygone time - simply do
collect such oddities. The fellow that does this is a tea drinker.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
I also pulled up a few of his statements
against drugs, where I could easily find them. Someone else
pulled up a LaVey statement from the SW indicating that he
condoned the use of drugs.
So you can't trust what he says. What a surprise that is. Heh.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
COS by BB page 103 quoting LaVey, "Taking drugs is another issue the
public seems to wrongly associate with modern diabolical rites. In his
description for the purpose of the Ninth Enochian Key, LaVey states that
it, 'warns of the use of substances, devices or pharmaceuticals which
might
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
lead to the delusion and subsequent enslavement of the master.' Contrary
to
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
religious propaganda, drugs are not part of Satanic ceremonies or
lifestyles
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
because, [LaVey claims] Satanists want to heighten their senses, not dull
them." "We resist mindlessness of any kind. Again, drugs, like
television,
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
are fine for other people. The more enslaved they are, the easier it is
for
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
us, as long as they stay out of our way. " Definitive statement against
drug use by LaVey. The statement about the Enochian key appears in
English
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
on the page prior to the Key.
So the Church of Satan demands that its members can't watch television
either?
Bunch of fucking fruitcakes, seems to me.
100% AGREE with that, but the logical conclusions to be had due to their
boldfaced lying, even about things I prehaps naively took them at their word
about (yes, naive alright) - are the conclusions I specified.

We can then take it on this hard proof that they lie to the public, that
they also actully condone and turn a blind eye to pedophilia (two of their
Priests were arrested for it and one of them was made into a Priest after
having already been charged with child molestation (William Gidney and
Thomas Blumenthal). We can also take it that they lie to the public and
turn a blind eye toward human sacrifice, since LaVey in the SB has a chapter
on choosing a human sacrifice and only puts that it is supposed to be
symbolic in parantheses. So then, they deserve "have you murdered any cats
lately" snideness directed their way.
Tom
2005-01-18 16:43:50 UTC
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Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tom
Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't a
cop.
Not so - I know an elderly fellow that has collected such paraphenalia of
many sorts, including strange shot glasses from a bygone time - simply do
collect such oddities. The fellow that does this is a tea drinker.
There is a big difference between having a collection of antique shot
glasses and having a bunch of hash pipes laying around.
Wortenheimer
2005-01-18 16:45:02 UTC
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Post by Tom
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tom
Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't
a
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tom
cop.
Not so - I know an elderly fellow that has collected such paraphenalia of
many sorts, including strange shot glasses from a bygone time - simply do
collect such oddities. The fellow that does this is a tea drinker.
There is a big difference between having a collection of antique shot
glasses and having a bunch of hash pipes laying around.
i have a box of "whippits" for making whipped cream. does that mean i
inhale the stuff for a high like the pre-med students in the next dorm room
from me used to do? find a brain and then maybe you won't be so boring.
Tom
2005-01-19 22:21:33 UTC
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Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tom
There is a big difference between having a collection of antique shot
glasses and having a bunch of hash pipes laying around.
i have a box of "whippits" for making whipped cream. does that mean i
inhale the stuff for a high like the pre-med students in the next dorm room
from me used to do?
There is also a big difference between whipped cream cans and hash pipes.
Post by Wortenheimer
find a brain
I keep looking for them everywhere I go. Can I have yours? You don't seem
to be using it at present. I'll even fill it up for you when I return it,
and I promise I'll keep it as well washed as you do.
Post by Wortenheimer
and then maybe you won't be so boring.
Poor fellow. I sympathize. Boredom is the bane of adolescence.
Wortenheimer
2005-01-20 01:19:00 UTC
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Post by Tom
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tom
There is a big difference between having a collection of antique shot
glasses and having a bunch of hash pipes laying around.
i have a box of "whippits" for making whipped cream. does that mean i
inhale the stuff for a high like the pre-med students in the next dorm
room
Post by Wortenheimer
from me used to do?
There is also a big difference between whipped cream cans and hash pipes.
no comprehension. okay. did i say "whipped cream cans?" no, i didn't. i
was talking about gas cannisters. i'll let you do your own research on what
those cannisters might contain. btw, i'm 41-yrs-old. come up with better
insults. yours are a little too adolescent.
Post by Tom
Post by Wortenheimer
find a brain
I keep looking for them everywhere I go. Can I have yours? You don't seem
to be using it at present. I'll even fill it up for you when I return it,
and I promise I'll keep it as well washed as you do.
Post by Wortenheimer
and then maybe you won't be so boring.
Poor fellow. I sympathize. Boredom is the bane of adolescence.
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-20 04:16:58 UTC
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Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tom
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tom
There is a big difference between having a collection of antique shot
glasses and having a bunch of hash pipes laying around.
i have a box of "whippits" for making whipped cream. does that mean i
inhale the stuff for a high like the pre-med students in the next dorm
room
Post by Wortenheimer
from me used to do?
There is also a big difference between whipped cream cans and hash pipes.
no comprehension. okay. did i say "whipped cream cans?" no, i didn't.
i
Post by Wortenheimer
was talking about gas cannisters. i'll let you do your own research on what
those cannisters might contain. btw, i'm 41-yrs-old. come up with better
insults. yours are a little too adolescent.
Post by Tom
Post by Wortenheimer
find a brain
I keep looking for them everywhere I go. Can I have yours? You don't seem
to be using it at present. I'll even fill it up for you when I return it,
and I promise I'll keep it as well washed as you do.
Post by Wortenheimer
and then maybe you won't be so boring.
Poor fellow. I sympathize. Boredom is the bane of adolescence.
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BTD: Holy Shit Tom, the Socialist Anton Svendor LeVey name dropping groupie
is 41 years old.
Tom
2005-01-20 15:48:58 UTC
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Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Post by Tom
Poor fellow. I sympathize. Boredom is the bane of adolescence.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Holy Shit Tom, the Socialist Anton Svendor LeVey name dropping groupie
is 41 years old.
Yeah. Some people just can't seem to get past adolescence.
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-20 21:36:41 UTC
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Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Post by Tom
Poor fellow. I sympathize. Boredom is the bane of adolescence.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Holy Shit Tom, the Socialist Anton Svendor LeVey name dropping
groupie
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
is 41 years old.
Yeah. Some people just can't seem to get past adolescence.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: It's the society:)
Tom
2005-01-20 15:47:54 UTC
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Post by Wortenheimer
no comprehension.
Not unexpected.
Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-20 21:57:07 UTC
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Tom - wherefrom did you get the information about the hash pipe? I believe
you - it is a matter of court records that he had it - but where is this
information?
Post by Tom
Post by Wortenheimer
no comprehension.
Not unexpected.
Tom
2005-01-21 17:53:21 UTC
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Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Tom - wherefrom did you get the information about the hash pipe?
I believe you - it is a matter of court records that he had it - but
where is this
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
information?
If it's a matter of court records, then look in the court records.
Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-19 01:10:48 UTC
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Post by Tom
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tom
Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't
a
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tom
cop.
Not so - I know an elderly fellow that has collected such paraphenalia of
many sorts, including strange shot glasses from a bygone time - simply do
collect such oddities. The fellow that does this is a tea drinker.
There is a big difference between having a collection of antique shot
glasses and having a bunch of hash pipes laying around.
The person I referred to has BOTH laying around. He doesn't only have
antique shot glasses, either.

But my point is valid. I believed it - he wrote it, said it and heh - went
into whirlspins over hypocricy so go figure.

STILL - THAT I have new information to show him to be a lying hypocrite that
puts on a good face for the public THEN this LOGICALLY follows about other
things that he claimed "Satanists in his church do not do." Especially
since at least THREE of them in his church DID do it.

We can then take it on this hard proof that they lie to the public, that
they also actully condone and turn a blind eye to pedophilia (two of their
Priests were arrested for it and one of them was made into a Priest after
having already been charged with child molestation (William Gidney and
Thomas Blumenthal). We can also take it that they lie to the public and
turn a blind eye toward human sacrifice, since LaVey in the SB has a chapter
on choosing a human sacrifice and only puts that it is supposed to be
symbolic in parantheses. So then, they deserve "have you murdered any cats
lately" snideness directed their way.

You know, you can't fault me for believing what he wrote/said. Do THIEVES
come up to you and claim they are thieves and then expect you to invite them
into your home? Of course they don't.

I see no reason to belabor it. I BELIEVED what he said/wrote. Got it? Got
it YET? Got it? Now I'm 180 degrees on it. Anton LaVey was a crack head -
that might explain why he ended up living in a house that was filthier and
more broke down than a crack house.

Good day!
Ben Schultz
2005-01-18 08:54:04 UTC
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Please see in text
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Boboroshi (Nagasiva) (who archives these things) and some others are
having
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
a dispute about Anton LaVey and his stance on drugs, and whether or not he
ever used them. Bobo brings up that he had hash pipes. I mentioned that
he
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
collected such things only.
Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't a
cop.
That is not entirely true... I personally have a lot of things I have
collected over the years just to have them.

Pipes are easy to come by now days. Most "imports" stores have them
for sale as novelty items. That takes a lot of the fun out of
collecting them.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
I also pulled up a few of his statements
against drugs, where I could easily find them. Someone else
pulled up a LaVey statement from the SW indicating that he
condoned the use of drugs.
So you can't trust what he says. What a surprise that is. Heh.
The problem here, in my opinion, is confusing LaVey's personal
opinions with the official CoS stances. Whether or not Anton was in
favor of responsible use of controlled substances, the CoS, as an
organization, cannot condone illegal activity.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
COS by BB page 103 quoting LaVey, "Taking drugs is another issue the
public seems to wrongly associate with modern diabolical rites. In his
description for the purpose of the Ninth Enochian Key, LaVey states that
it, 'warns of the use of substances, devices or pharmaceuticals which
might
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
lead to the delusion and subsequent enslavement of the master.' Contrary
to
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
religious propaganda, drugs are not part of Satanic ceremonies or
lifestyles
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
because, [LaVey claims] Satanists want to heighten their senses, not dull
them." "We resist mindlessness of any kind. Again, drugs, like
television,
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
are fine for other people. The more enslaved they are, the easier it is
for
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
us, as long as they stay out of our way. " Definitive statement against
drug use by LaVey. The statement about the Enochian key appears in
English
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
on the page prior to the Key.
So the Church of Satan demands that its members can't watch television
either?
Bunch of fucking fruitcakes, seems to me.
What? When was TV removed from the list of acceptable items? And why
wasn't I notified? Damn it all... And I really like "Las Vegas."



"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. But not in that order."- Brian Pickrell

www.devilzown.com
Wortenheimer
2005-01-18 10:51:20 UTC
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Post by Ben Schultz
Please see in text
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Boboroshi (Nagasiva) (who archives these things) and some others are
having
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
a dispute about Anton LaVey and his stance on drugs, and whether or not he
ever used them. Bobo brings up that he had hash pipes. I mentioned that
he
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
collected such things only.
Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't a
cop.
That is not entirely true... I personally have a lot of things I have
collected over the years just to have them.
Pipes are easy to come by now days. Most "imports" stores have them
for sale as novelty items. That takes a lot of the fun out of
collecting them.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
I also pulled up a few of his statements
against drugs, where I could easily find them. Someone else
pulled up a LaVey statement from the SW indicating that he
condoned the use of drugs.
So you can't trust what he says. What a surprise that is. Heh.
The problem here, in my opinion, is confusing LaVey's personal
opinions with the official CoS stances. Whether or not Anton was in
favor of responsible use of controlled substances, the CoS, as an
organization, cannot condone illegal activity.
this is the same as many "extremist" political organizations in the states.
the first one that pops to mind is the trotskyite socialist workers party.
they expressly forbid the illegal use of controlled substances by their
members even tho many if not most of those members would legalize such
things as marijuana if given political power. it's a practical matter
dealing with the real political environment in which one lives.

besides, this whole discussion simply shows that lavey bashers lack alacrity
of mind.
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
COS by BB page 103 quoting LaVey, "Taking drugs is another issue the
public seems to wrongly associate with modern diabolical rites. In his
description for the purpose of the Ninth Enochian Key, LaVey states that
it, 'warns of the use of substances, devices or pharmaceuticals which
might
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
lead to the delusion and subsequent enslavement of the master.'
Contrary
to
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
religious propaganda, drugs are not part of Satanic ceremonies or
lifestyles
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
because, [LaVey claims] Satanists want to heighten their senses, not dull
them." "We resist mindlessness of any kind. Again, drugs, like
television,
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
are fine for other people. The more enslaved they are, the easier it is
for
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
us, as long as they stay out of our way. " Definitive statement against
drug use by LaVey. The statement about the Enochian key appears in
English
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
on the page prior to the Key.
So the Church of Satan demands that its members can't watch television
either?
Bunch of fucking fruitcakes, seems to me.
What? When was TV removed from the list of acceptable items? And why
wasn't I notified? Damn it all... And I really like "Las Vegas."
"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.
But not in that order."- Brian Pickrell
www.devilzown.com
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-18 16:54:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Ben Schultz
Please see in text
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Boboroshi (Nagasiva) (who archives these things) and some others are
having
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
a dispute about Anton LaVey and his stance on drugs, and whether or
not
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
he
ever used them. Bobo brings up that he had hash pipes. I mentioned that
he
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
collected such things only.
Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't a
cop.
That is not entirely true... I personally have a lot of things I have
collected over the years just to have them.
Pipes are easy to come by now days. Most "imports" stores have them
for sale as novelty items. That takes a lot of the fun out of
collecting them.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
I also pulled up a few of his statements
against drugs, where I could easily find them. Someone else
pulled up a LaVey statement from the SW indicating that he
condoned the use of drugs.
So you can't trust what he says. What a surprise that is. Heh.
The problem here, in my opinion, is confusing LaVey's personal
opinions with the official CoS stances. Whether or not Anton was in
favor of responsible use of controlled substances, the CoS, as an
organization, cannot condone illegal activity.
this is the same as many "extremist" political organizations in the states.
the first one that pops to mind is the trotskyite socialist workers party.
they expressly forbid the illegal use of controlled substances by their
members even tho many if not most of those members would legalize such
things as marijuana if given political power. it's a practical matter
dealing with the real political environment in which one lives.
besides, this whole discussion simply shows that lavey bashers lack alacrity
of mind.
[clip]
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BTD: Both statements are a total crock of shit. People discuss drug use all
the time. In books, major publications, &c., &c. The only people that act as
you two describe are people like Bill Clinton -- trying to look like a
Conservative for electoral purposes and actually ouverte Conservatives. So
what was Anton doing planning on running for office or merely receiving one
hand washes the other support from fellow Col. Haushofer loving
Conservatives?
Wortenheimer
2005-01-18 17:01:47 UTC
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Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Wortenheimer
this is the same as many "extremist" political organizations in the
states.
Post by Wortenheimer
the first one that pops to mind is the trotskyite socialist workers party.
they expressly forbid the illegal use of controlled substances by their
members even tho many if not most of those members would legalize such
things as marijuana if given political power. it's a practical matter
dealing with the real political environment in which one lives.
besides, this whole discussion simply shows that lavey bashers lack
alacrity
Post by Wortenheimer
of mind.
[clip]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Both statements are a total crock of shit. People discuss drug use all
the time. In books, major publications, &c., &c. The only people that act as
you two describe are people like Bill Clinton -- trying to look like a
Conservative for electoral purposes and actually ouverte Conservatives. So
what was Anton doing planning on running for office or merely receiving one
hand washes the other support from fellow Col. Haushofer loving
Conservatives?
as a former member of the young socialist alliance and socialist workers
party, american section of the fourth international, i can say either that
you are a liar or an uneducated twit. go back to your momma and come back
when you have a real perspective on the world.
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-18 17:44:56 UTC
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Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Wortenheimer
this is the same as many "extremist" political organizations in the
states.
Post by Wortenheimer
the first one that pops to mind is the trotskyite socialist workers party.
they expressly forbid the illegal use of controlled substances by their
members even tho many if not most of those members would legalize such
things as marijuana if given political power. it's a practical matter
dealing with the real political environment in which one lives.
besides, this whole discussion simply shows that lavey bashers lack
alacrity
Post by Wortenheimer
of mind.
[clip]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Both statements are a total crock of shit. People discuss drug use all
the time. In books, major publications, &c., &c. The only people that
act
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Wortenheimer
as
you two describe are people like Bill Clinton -- trying to look like a
Conservative for electoral purposes and actually ouverte Conservatives. So
what was Anton doing planning on running for office or merely receiving one
hand washes the other support from fellow Col. Haushofer loving
Conservatives?
as a former member of the young socialist alliance and socialist workers
party, american section of the fourth international, i can say either that
you are a liar or an uneducated twit. go back to your momma and come back
when you have a real perspective on the world.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: (alt.magick) Ordinarily I'd ask you to blow me but knowing where your
lips have been, forget it.

Boy you sure do have a short fuse, squirt, probably a skinny little prick
too
I use to vote for Angela Davis on the Socialist Workers Party ticket when
you were giving your momma shitty diaper duty that is if you were even born
yet.

I confess that my perspective of the world is mostly confined to the US
because I live here and that otherwise I have to rely on information from
others but none of this topic has anything to do with world affairs it has
to do with US politics (if your attention span is a little longer than
normal you can read my other statements in this thread they are sufficient
in that regard).

My suggestion to you, is to come on back when you actually have something to
say and something to back it up with.
--
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Wortenheimer
2005-01-18 18:06:52 UTC
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this is the same as many "extremist" political organizations in the
states.
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the first one that pops to mind is the trotskyite socialist workers party.
they expressly forbid the illegal use of controlled substances by their
members even tho many if not most of those members would legalize such
things as marijuana if given political power. it's a practical matter
dealing with the real political environment in which one lives.
besides, this whole discussion simply shows that lavey bashers lack
alacrity
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of mind.
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BTD: Both statements are a total crock of shit. People discuss drug use all
the time. In books, major publications, &c., &c. The only people that
act
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as
you two describe are people like Bill Clinton -- trying to look like a
Conservative for electoral purposes and actually ouverte Conservatives.
So
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what was Anton doing planning on running for office or merely receiving one
hand washes the other support from fellow Col. Haushofer loving
Conservatives?
as a former member of the young socialist alliance and socialist workers
party, american section of the fourth international, i can say either that
you are a liar or an uneducated twit. go back to your momma and come back
when you have a real perspective on the world.
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BTD: (alt.magick) Ordinarily I'd ask you to blow me but knowing where your
lips have been, forget it.
Boy you sure do have a short fuse, squirt, probably a skinny little prick
too
I use to vote for Angela Davis on the Socialist Workers Party ticket when
you were giving your momma shitty diaper duty that is if you were even born
yet.
I confess that my perspective of the world is mostly confined to the US
because I live here and that otherwise I have to rely on information from
others but none of this topic has anything to do with world affairs it has
to do with US politics (if your attention span is a little longer than
normal you can read my other statements in this thread they are sufficient
in that regard).
My suggestion to you, is to come on back when you actually have something to
say and something to back it up with.
--
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i knew angela davis personally, dickhead. the official policy of the
socialist workers party is that no illegal drug use will be tolerated by any
of its members. it's a facet of democratic centralization. each member is
free to have and express within the party whatever their opinion might be,
but publicly the party presents a united front.

now clean up your LSD-addled brain before you make a real fool of yourself.
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-18 22:42:04 UTC
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this is the same as many "extremist" political organizations in the
states.
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the first one that pops to mind is the trotskyite socialist workers party.
they expressly forbid the illegal use of controlled substances by their
members even tho many if not most of those members would legalize such
things as marijuana if given political power. it's a practical matter
dealing with the real political environment in which one lives.
besides, this whole discussion simply shows that lavey bashers lack
alacrity
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of mind.
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BTD: Both statements are a total crock of shit. People discuss drug
use
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all
the time. In books, major publications, &c., &c. The only people that
act
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as
you two describe are people like Bill Clinton -- trying to look like a
Conservative for electoral purposes and actually ouverte
Conservatives.
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So
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what was Anton doing planning on running for office or merely
receiving
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one
hand washes the other support from fellow Col. Haushofer loving
Conservatives?
as a former member of the young socialist alliance and socialist workers
party, american section of the fourth international, i can say either that
you are a liar or an uneducated twit. go back to your momma and come back
when you have a real perspective on the world.
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BTD: (alt.magick) Ordinarily I'd ask you to blow me but knowing where your
lips have been, forget it.
Boy you sure do have a short fuse, squirt, probably a skinny little prick
too
I use to vote for Angela Davis on the Socialist Workers Party ticket when
you were giving your momma shitty diaper duty that is if you were even born
yet.
I confess that my perspective of the world is mostly confined to the US
because I live here and that otherwise I have to rely on information from
others but none of this topic has anything to do with world affairs it has
to do with US politics (if your attention span is a little longer than
normal you can read my other statements in this thread they are sufficient
in that regard).
My suggestion to you, is to come on back when you actually have
something
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to
say and something to back it up with.
--
http://www.facelink.com/blazintommyd
i knew angela davis personally, dickhead. the official policy of the
socialist workers party is that no illegal drug use will be tolerated by any
of its members. it's a facet of democratic centralization. each member is
free to have and express within the party whatever their opinion might be,
but publicly the party presents a united front.
now clean up your LSD-addled brain before you make a real fool of yourself.
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BTD: Sure and you still don't get elected. I'm proud of every LSD trip I
ever took. I don't have to kiss ass to be recognized as a fellow Jew. So
what's your excuse? You have to publicly denounce drugs to be part of your
little private club? No Leary folk allowed? Woooooo, like big fucking deal,
really radical. You relationship to Anton Svendor LeVey. You still haven't
addressed the merits of my remarks ... Kolochki dick.
Wortenheimer
2005-01-19 02:16:23 UTC
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I'm proud of every LSD trip I ever took.
there's something of which to be proud. i never felt the inclination, and
the reasons have nothing to do with external pressure.
I don't have to kiss ass to be recognized as a fellow Jew.
umm... are you tripping on something right now? is this some reference to
my moniker in this group? if so, you're way off base, asswipe.
So what's your excuse? You have to publicly denounce drugs to be part of
your
little private club?
i don't belong to any clubs, and i've never felt the need to publicly
denounce "drugs" as it's never been an issue to me.
No Leary folk allowed? Woooooo, like big fucking deal,
really radical.
someone feels the need to be "radical?"
You relationship to Anton Svendor LeVey. You still haven't
addressed the merits of my remarks ... Kolochki dick.
i hadn't noticed any remarks worth responding to. you're wrong. that's
all.
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-19 05:18:41 UTC
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I'm proud of every LSD trip I ever took.
there's something of which to be proud. i never felt the inclination, and
the reasons have nothing to do with external pressure.
I don't have to kiss ass to be recognized as a fellow Jew.
umm... are you tripping on something right now? is this some reference to
my moniker in this group? if so, you're way off base, asswipe.
So what's your excuse? You have to publicly denounce drugs to be part of
your
little private club?
i don't belong to any clubs, and i've never felt the need to publicly
denounce "drugs" as it's never been an issue to me.
No Leary folk allowed? Woooooo, like big fucking deal,
really radical.
someone feels the need to be "radical?"
You relationship to Anton Svendor LeVey. You still haven't
addressed the merits of my remarks ... Kolochki dick.
i hadn't noticed any remarks worth responding to. you're wrong. that's
all.
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BTD: I'm not wrong, you're full of shit:)
Wortenheimer
2005-01-19 05:42:57 UTC
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I'm proud of every LSD trip I ever took.
there's something of which to be proud. i never felt the inclination, and
the reasons have nothing to do with external pressure.
I don't have to kiss ass to be recognized as a fellow Jew.
umm... are you tripping on something right now? is this some reference
to
Post by Wortenheimer
my moniker in this group? if so, you're way off base, asswipe.
So what's your excuse? You have to publicly denounce drugs to be part of
your
little private club?
i don't belong to any clubs, and i've never felt the need to publicly
denounce "drugs" as it's never been an issue to me.
No Leary folk allowed? Woooooo, like big fucking deal,
really radical.
someone feels the need to be "radical?"
You relationship to Anton Svendor LeVey. You still haven't
addressed the merits of my remarks ... Kolochki dick.
i hadn't noticed any remarks worth responding to. you're wrong. that's
all.
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BTD: I'm not wrong, you're full of shit:)
you're wrong. probably have a diagnosable personality disorder to boot.
i'm guessing bpd or npd.
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-20 04:30:19 UTC
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I'm proud of every LSD trip I ever took.
there's something of which to be proud. i never felt the inclination, and
the reasons have nothing to do with external pressure.
I don't have to kiss ass to be recognized as a fellow Jew.
umm... are you tripping on something right now? is this some reference
to
Post by Wortenheimer
my moniker in this group? if so, you're way off base, asswipe.
So what's your excuse? You have to publicly denounce drugs to be part of
your
little private club?
i don't belong to any clubs, and i've never felt the need to publicly
denounce "drugs" as it's never been an issue to me.
No Leary folk allowed? Woooooo, like big fucking deal,
really radical.
someone feels the need to be "radical?"
You relationship to Anton Svendor LeVey. You still haven't
addressed the merits of my remarks ... Kolochki dick.
i hadn't noticed any remarks worth responding to. you're wrong.
that's
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all.
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BTD: I'm not wrong, you're full of shit:)
you're wrong. probably have a diagnosable personality disorder to boot.
i'm guessing bpd or npd.
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BTD: Well I don't have to guess with you, no one does; you're just an
ignorant rube --
the shit on your shoes sort of gives it away. Incidentally, I think it's
more the straw than the smell that attracts the attention. Maybe a little of
both, who knows. So why don't you Wiggemore on back to the barn now son
maybe one of the cows needs attendin'.
Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-19 01:10:49 UTC
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Who is Haushofer? You mentioned him before. Who is he?
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Boboroshi (Nagasiva) (who archives these things) and some others are
having
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a dispute about Anton LaVey and his stance on drugs, and whether or
not
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he
ever used them. Bobo brings up that he had hash pipes. I mentioned that
he
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collected such things only.
Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't
a
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cop.
That is not entirely true... I personally have a lot of things I have
collected over the years just to have them.
Pipes are easy to come by now days. Most "imports" stores have them
for sale as novelty items. That takes a lot of the fun out of
collecting them.
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I also pulled up a few of his statements
against drugs, where I could easily find them. Someone else
pulled up a LaVey statement from the SW indicating that he
condoned the use of drugs.
So you can't trust what he says. What a surprise that is. Heh.
The problem here, in my opinion, is confusing LaVey's personal
opinions with the official CoS stances. Whether or not Anton was in
favor of responsible use of controlled substances, the CoS, as an
organization, cannot condone illegal activity.
this is the same as many "extremist" political organizations in the
states.
Post by Wortenheimer
the first one that pops to mind is the trotskyite socialist workers party.
they expressly forbid the illegal use of controlled substances by their
members even tho many if not most of those members would legalize such
things as marijuana if given political power. it's a practical matter
dealing with the real political environment in which one lives.
besides, this whole discussion simply shows that lavey bashers lack
alacrity
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of mind.
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BTD: Both statements are a total crock of shit. People discuss drug use all
the time. In books, major publications, &c., &c. The only people that act as
you two describe are people like Bill Clinton -- trying to look like a
Conservative for electoral purposes and actually ouverte Conservatives. So
what was Anton doing planning on running for office or merely receiving one
hand washes the other support from fellow Col. Haushofer loving
Conservatives?
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-19 05:25:21 UTC
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Who is Haushofer? You mentioned him before. Who is he?
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BTD: The man that devised Geopoliticks. Essentially Hitler's minister of
war. Hitler built for him this large building the Centre for Geopolitiks or
some such thing. Do a google search. Common historical knowledge. The guy
was high profile Nazi. Geopolitiks is now the basis of US foreign policy. So
everything I've been saying dovetails. See?
Tom
2005-01-18 16:50:13 UTC
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Post by Tom
Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't a
cop.
That is not entirely true... I personally have a lot of things I have
collected over the years just to have them.
Hash pipes?
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Pipes are easy to come by now days. Most "imports" stores have them
for sale as novelty items. That takes a lot of the fun out of
collecting them.
Exactly. They are worthless as collectibles. So only users or cops amass
them.
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Post by Tom
So you can't trust what he says. What a surprise that is. Heh.
The problem here, in my opinion, is confusing LaVey's personal
opinions with the official CoS stances.
In this case, it sounds like they are identical.
Post by Ben Schultz
Whether or not Anton was in
favor of responsible use of controlled substances, the CoS, as an
organization, cannot condone illegal activity.
Not if they are trying to pretend they are upstanding and law-abiding
citizens.

The whole point of satanism is to defy the imposition of inconvenient rules
of behavior.
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Post by Tom
So the Church of Satan demands that its members can't watch television
either?
Bunch of fucking fruitcakes, seems to me.
What? When was TV removed from the list of acceptable items? And why
wasn't I notified? Damn it all... And I really like "Las Vegas."
Well, you better stop, because them's the rulez.
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-18 17:22:41 UTC
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Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't a
cop.
That is not entirely true... I personally have a lot of things I have
collected over the years just to have them.
Hash pipes?
Post by Ben Schultz
Pipes are easy to come by now days. Most "imports" stores have them
for sale as novelty items. That takes a lot of the fun out of
collecting them.
Exactly. They are worthless as collectibles. So only users or cops amass
them.
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Post by Tom
So you can't trust what he says. What a surprise that is. Heh.
The problem here, in my opinion, is confusing LaVey's personal
opinions with the official CoS stances.
In this case, it sounds like they are identical.
Post by Ben Schultz
Whether or not Anton was in
favor of responsible use of controlled substances, the CoS, as an
organization, cannot condone illegal activity.
Not if they are trying to pretend they are upstanding and law-abiding
citizens.
The whole point of satanism is to defy the imposition of inconvenient rules
of behavior.
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BTD: (alt.magick) Good points although not necessarily true. A person or
organization has the right to dissuade people from using drugs and in that
regard Anton gave a good reason - -viz., 'to have/keep your wits about you'.
For example, me, I used to use LSD and did so quite a lot but now I haven't
used any drugs at all for decades and mostly for the aforesaid reason and
because Steven Holgash a detective from Johnson City, New York used to go
around and get high with people buy dope from them and then bust them and
ruin their and their families lives with the assistance of Conservative
Judges. Fascism works.

And all fascists ought to be put down on their knees, shot in the back of
the head and buried in a mass grave. Now I've stated that and maybe someday
I'll run for office and someone can form a mob and say I posted said
statement. So what?

The point is who is the statement going to affect NOT whether you can get
busted for it or not. In the case of Satanists they're going to get harassed
regardless of what their positions are probably least of all by the police.
The more likely source are fundamentalist groups using civil actions against
various members - e.g., the business with Mikey Aquino who is involved with
the US Government and military intelligence. There's nothing worst to
Democratic-republicans than (1) drug use (2) pedophilia and homosexuality
and (3) if all else fails, Al Capone - i.e., income tax evasion.

So if you're actually supplying information to the government or doing
behavior modification experiments for intelligence purposes with the data
and or results to be reported back to the military, members of Congress
whatever, having been blasted while doing such things would be the ultimate
worst.

Now Tom says "The whole point of Satanism is to defy the imposition of
inconvenient rules of behavior". The way I see it is that if Anton and Mikey
ever said that's what they do or that's what Satanism is about (which I
never saw/read) then yes they are liars, hypocrites &c because what they
were actually doing and advocating is really no different than what the
Republican Party and White Southern Democratics have done since Nixon was
President. The only distinctions are exoteric - e.g., Democratic republicans
don't have sex, don't inhale and are on a mass war campaign to kill drug
users, pedohiliacs, &c., &c. Whether they do so privately is irrelevant,
it's who the statements affect in the public for electoral and other
partisan purposes.

Such positions on drugs have nothing whatever to do with religion - e.g.,
Yaqui natives and other native groups - they are partisan in nature and as
Conservatives would allege social in nature because they touch/affect the
Conservative way of life. Check out Rolling Stone magazine sometime, you'll
get the picture.
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Ben Schultz
2005-01-18 19:41:25 UTC
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Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't a
cop.
That is not entirely true... I personally have a lot of things I have
collected over the years just to have them.
Hash pipes?
No. Mostly books, guns, knives, cars, whatever strikes my fancy. Well,
not so much cars anymore, kids tend to lower the liquid assets.
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
Pipes are easy to come by now days. Most "imports" stores have them
for sale as novelty items. That takes a lot of the fun out of
collecting them.
Exactly. They are worthless as collectibles. So only users or cops amass
them.
Today, in 2005 I might agree with you... Of course, LaVey has been
dead for a few years. He also collected joy buzzers. Does that mean he
enjoyed be electrocuted?
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So you can't trust what he says. What a surprise that is. Heh.
The problem here, in my opinion, is confusing LaVey's personal
opinions with the official CoS stances.
In this case, it sounds like they are identical.
Well, if they're identical, where's your confusion?
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
Whether or not Anton was in
favor of responsible use of controlled substances, the CoS, as an
organization, cannot condone illegal activity.
Not if they are trying to pretend they are upstanding and law-abiding
citizens.
The whole point of satanism is to defy the imposition of inconvenient rules
of behavior.
Ah, and now we get to the crux of the matter, you pointed
misunderstanding of what Satanism is all about.

Tell me, Tom. Exactly how are you supposed to indulge anything besides
your desire to be sodomized from inside a prison?
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So the Church of Satan demands that its members can't watch television
either?
Bunch of fucking fruitcakes, seems to me.
What? When was TV removed from the list of acceptable items? And why
wasn't I notified? Damn it all... And I really like "Las Vegas."
Well, you better stop, because them's the rulez.
Whatever...


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www.devilzown.com
Tom
2005-01-19 22:21:34 UTC
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No. Mostly books, guns, knives, cars, whatever strikes my fancy. Well,
not so much cars anymore, kids tend to lower the liquid assets.
I advice against collecting kids. Look what happened to Michael Jackson.

Go back to collecting cars.

(Aside: These satanists sure are scamps, aren't they?)
Post by Ben Schultz
Today, in 2005 I might agree with you... Of course, LaVey has been
dead for a few years. He also collected joy buzzers. Does that mean he
enjoyed be electrocuted?
Hey, I'm not judging his sexual preferences.

Is the purpose of a joybuzzer to deliver a dose of an illegal substance into
one's bloodstream? That's the purpose of a hash pipe.

Last time I looked, electricity was legal.
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
The problem here, in my opinion, is confusing LaVey's personal
opinions with the official CoS stances.
In this case, it sounds like they are identical.
Well, if they're identical, where's your confusion?
Why, there it is! In your head! Oh, wait. My mistake. That's *your*
confustion.
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
The whole point of satanism is to defy the imposition of inconvenient rules
of behavior.
Ah, and now we get to the crux of the matter, you pointed
misunderstanding of what Satanism is all about.
Have I? What evidence contradicts my view?
Post by Ben Schultz
Tell me, Tom. Exactly how are you supposed to indulge anything besides
your desire to be sodomized from inside a prison?
Plenty. How about you?
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Well, you better stop, because them's the rulez.
Whatever...
See there? Another example of a satanist defying the imposition of
inconvenient rules. It's at the very core of satanism to do that.
Ben Schultz
2005-01-20 13:01:41 UTC
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Post by Tom
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No. Mostly books, guns, knives, cars, whatever strikes my fancy. Well,
not so much cars anymore, kids tend to lower the liquid assets.
I advice against collecting kids. Look what happened to Michael Jackson.
funny...
Post by Tom
Go back to collecting cars.
(Aside: These satanists sure are scamps, aren't they?)
Post by Ben Schultz
Today, in 2005 I might agree with you... Of course, LaVey has been
dead for a few years. He also collected joy buzzers. Does that mean he
enjoyed be electrocuted?
Hey, I'm not judging his sexual preferences.
Is the purpose of a joybuzzer to deliver a dose of an illegal substance into
one's bloodstream? That's the purpose of a hash pipe.
Last time I looked, electricity was legal.
So are hash pipes... as long as you don't use them...
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
The problem here, in my opinion, is confusing LaVey's personal
opinions with the official CoS stances.
In this case, it sounds like they are identical.
Well, if they're identical, where's your confusion?
Why, there it is! In your head! Oh, wait. My mistake. That's *your*
confustion.
Right...
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
The whole point of satanism is to defy the imposition of inconvenient
rules
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Post by Tom
of behavior.
Ah, and now we get to the crux of the matter, you pointed
misunderstanding of what Satanism is all about.
Have I? What evidence contradicts my view?
Well, compare your statements to... well... pretty much anything.
Satanism isn't about ignoring rules. It's about freedom &
responsibility. Sure, I can ignore those rules that I don't like
provided I am willing to accept the consequences of breaking that
rule.

It's that consequence thing that most people miss.
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
Tell me, Tom. Exactly how are you supposed to indulge anything besides
your desire to be sodomized from inside a prison?
Plenty. How about you?
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Well, you better stop, because them's the rulez.
Whatever...
See there? Another example of a satanist defying the imposition of
inconvenient rules. It's at the very core of satanism to do that.
And if the TV police stop by my house on a Monday night, I guess I'll
be in trouble.


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2005-01-20 22:07:11 UTC
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Post by Ben Schultz
Tell me, Tom. Exactly how are you supposed to indulge anything besides
your desire to be sodomized from inside a prison?
Plenty. How about you?
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Well, you better stop, because them's the rulez.
Whatever...
See there? Another example of a satanist defying the imposition of
inconvenient rules. It's at the very core of satanism to do that.
And if the TV police stop by my house on a Monday night, I guess I'll
be in trouble.
Fact is, at least 3 of the co-founders of the SR break the law everytime
they have sex, if what Tom said is true. They are gay.

The point is, Ben, that the SR has NO rules whatsoever about drugs,
sexuality or whatever. NONE. One of the SR's is IRA member just out of
jail for IRA activity. Another one went to jail for murder in what some
might say was justified preemptive self defense. Hey, Bush does that all
the time :) We have NO rules about that. I know at least one in the egroup
that has used drugs - I think you know him too, not sure. So what?

The difference is that the COS used to be hard line anti drugs - and NOT
because it was illegal - but for other reasons. Or - correction. I
believed they were anti drugs for the reasons they stated simply because
they STATED they were. Naive me, my BAD. I have changed my mind. The hash
pipe, how his house actually was (unthinkable that ANY person that cares for
himself would let a house fall into ruin like that - and DUST, inches thick?
really, LIKE a crack house and dark and gloomly too, not well lit anywhere)
and the testimony of a person that sought to flame me - that's enough for me
to believe that this was just one more COS LIE. 180 degree turnaround.

Did anyone do an autopsy to see if drugs were in his system?
Dagon Productions
2005-01-21 02:50:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
Tell me, Tom. Exactly how are you supposed to indulge anything besides
your desire to be sodomized from inside a prison?
Plenty. How about you?
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Well, you better stop, because them's the rulez.
Whatever...
See there? Another example of a satanist defying the imposition of
inconvenient rules. It's at the very core of satanism to do that.
And if the TV police stop by my house on a Monday night, I guess I'll
be in trouble.
Fact is, at least 3 of the co-founders of the SR break the law everytime
they have sex, if what Tom said is true. They are gay.
The point is, Ben, that the SR has NO rules whatsoever about drugs,
sexuality or whatever. NONE. One of the SR's is IRA member just out of
jail for IRA activity. Another one went to jail for murder in what some
might say was justified preemptive self defense. Hey, Bush does that all
the time :) We have NO rules about that. I know at least one in the egroup
that has used drugs - I think you know him too, not sure. So what?
The difference is that the COS used to be hard line anti drugs - and NOT
because it was illegal - but for other reasons. Or - correction. I
believed they were anti drugs for the reasons they stated simply because
they STATED they were. Naive me, my BAD. I have changed my mind. The hash
pipe, how his house actually was (unthinkable that ANY person that cares for
himself would let a house fall into ruin like that - and DUST, inches thick?
really, LIKE a crack house and dark and gloomly too, not well lit anywhere)
I'm sure trani knows what a "crack house" is like from all her experiences
she has had in them.

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Ben Schultz
2005-01-21 09:15:40 UTC
Permalink
Who really gives two pinches of shit?

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:07:11 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
Tell me, Tom. Exactly how are you supposed to indulge anything besides
your desire to be sodomized from inside a prison?
Plenty. How about you?
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Well, you better stop, because them's the rulez.
Whatever...
See there? Another example of a satanist defying the imposition of
inconvenient rules. It's at the very core of satanism to do that.
And if the TV police stop by my house on a Monday night, I guess I'll
be in trouble.
Fact is, at least 3 of the co-founders of the SR break the law everytime
they have sex, if what Tom said is true. They are gay.
The point is, Ben, that the SR has NO rules whatsoever about drugs,
sexuality or whatever. NONE. One of the SR's is IRA member just out of
jail for IRA activity. Another one went to jail for murder in what some
might say was justified preemptive self defense. Hey, Bush does that all
the time :) We have NO rules about that. I know at least one in the egroup
that has used drugs - I think you know him too, not sure. So what?
The difference is that the COS used to be hard line anti drugs - and NOT
because it was illegal - but for other reasons. Or - correction. I
believed they were anti drugs for the reasons they stated simply because
they STATED they were. Naive me, my BAD. I have changed my mind. The hash
pipe, how his house actually was (unthinkable that ANY person that cares for
himself would let a house fall into ruin like that - and DUST, inches thick?
really, LIKE a crack house and dark and gloomly too, not well lit anywhere)
and the testimony of a person that sought to flame me - that's enough for me
to believe that this was just one more COS LIE. 180 degree turnaround.
Did anyone do an autopsy to see if drugs were in his system?
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Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-22 21:58:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ben Schultz
Who really gives two pinches of shit?
Bobo does - obviously. Others do too, obviously. But your statement misses
the point. The org you belong to CLAIMS TO BE against drug use. And they
use drugs! Well, they CLAIM TO BE against a great many things. And at
least one of those things well, Gidney, Blumenthal - Blumenthal was given
that Priesthood AFTER HE WAS ALREADY convicted of child molestation, buddy.

So then, what your org claims to be against - is just a LIE told to the
gullible public. Got it? Who gives a shit about it? You tell me, buddy.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:07:11 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
Tell me, Tom. Exactly how are you supposed to indulge anything besides
your desire to be sodomized from inside a prison?
Plenty. How about you?
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Well, you better stop, because them's the rulez.
Whatever...
See there? Another example of a satanist defying the imposition of
inconvenient rules. It's at the very core of satanism to do that.
And if the TV police stop by my house on a Monday night, I guess I'll
be in trouble.
Fact is, at least 3 of the co-founders of the SR break the law everytime
they have sex, if what Tom said is true. They are gay.
The point is, Ben, that the SR has NO rules whatsoever about drugs,
sexuality or whatever. NONE. One of the SR's is IRA member just out of
jail for IRA activity. Another one went to jail for murder in what some
might say was justified preemptive self defense. Hey, Bush does that all
the time :) We have NO rules about that. I know at least one in the egroup
that has used drugs - I think you know him too, not sure. So what?
The difference is that the COS used to be hard line anti drugs - and NOT
because it was illegal - but for other reasons. Or - correction. I
believed they were anti drugs for the reasons they stated simply because
they STATED they were. Naive me, my BAD. I have changed my mind. The hash
pipe, how his house actually was (unthinkable that ANY person that cares for
himself would let a house fall into ruin like that - and DUST, inches thick?
really, LIKE a crack house and dark and gloomly too, not well lit anywhere)
and the testimony of a person that sought to flame me - that's enough for me
to believe that this was just one more COS LIE. 180 degree turnaround.
Did anyone do an autopsy to see if drugs were in his system?
"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.
But not in that order."- Brian Pickrell
www.devilzown.com
Ben Schultz
2005-01-22 22:24:16 UTC
Permalink
Right...

All of a sudden you decide to make a 180 on the topic and that means
it must be true.

Besides, even if this is true, I've already explained that there is a
difference between the ideas of people in an organization & the
official policies of that organization.



On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:58:25 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Who really gives two pinches of shit?
Bobo does - obviously. Others do too, obviously. But your statement misses
the point. The org you belong to CLAIMS TO BE against drug use. And they
use drugs! Well, they CLAIM TO BE against a great many things. And at
least one of those things well, Gidney, Blumenthal - Blumenthal was given
that Priesthood AFTER HE WAS ALREADY convicted of child molestation, buddy.
So then, what your org claims to be against - is just a LIE told to the
gullible public. Got it? Who gives a shit about it? You tell me, buddy.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:07:11 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
Tell me, Tom. Exactly how are you supposed to indulge anything besides
your desire to be sodomized from inside a prison?
Plenty. How about you?
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Well, you better stop, because them's the rulez.
Whatever...
See there? Another example of a satanist defying the imposition of
inconvenient rules. It's at the very core of satanism to do that.
And if the TV police stop by my house on a Monday night, I guess I'll
be in trouble.
Fact is, at least 3 of the co-founders of the SR break the law everytime
they have sex, if what Tom said is true. They are gay.
The point is, Ben, that the SR has NO rules whatsoever about drugs,
sexuality or whatever. NONE. One of the SR's is IRA member just out of
jail for IRA activity. Another one went to jail for murder in what some
might say was justified preemptive self defense. Hey, Bush does that all
the time :) We have NO rules about that. I know at least one in the egroup
that has used drugs - I think you know him too, not sure. So what?
The difference is that the COS used to be hard line anti drugs - and NOT
because it was illegal - but for other reasons. Or - correction. I
believed they were anti drugs for the reasons they stated simply because
they STATED they were. Naive me, my BAD. I have changed my mind. The hash
pipe, how his house actually was (unthinkable that ANY person that cares for
himself would let a house fall into ruin like that - and DUST, inches thick?
really, LIKE a crack house and dark and gloomly too, not well lit anywhere)
and the testimony of a person that sought to flame me - that's enough for me
to believe that this was just one more COS LIE. 180 degree turnaround.
Did anyone do an autopsy to see if drugs were in his system?
"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.
But not in that order."- Brian Pickrell
www.devilzown.com
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Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-23 01:57:06 UTC
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Post by Ben Schultz
Right...
All of a sudden you decide to make a 180 on the topic and that means
it must be true.
It means that the COS LIED becauase testimony exists to show that druggies
are in the very HIERARCHY of that org. GOT IT? Don't you know what the
Council of Nine is?
Post by Ben Schultz
Besides, even if this is true, I've already explained that there is a
difference between the ideas of people in an organization & the
official policies of that organization.
When the hierarchs of that organization formerly asked ME, as Mag in it, to
"take on" the issue of drug use within the COS - that they DO NOT ALLOW IT
and will kick such people out - then it DOES matter, Benny. Bobo posted it.
Oh, it does matter. I remember you in your arguments with people in
#satanmuse - you adamantly and staunchly ANTI drug use. I remember that. I
would imagine that due to what I and others "claimed" that you believe that
the COS entirety was against it, would kick out such druggies. Well, guess
again. AND IT DOES matter when I'm LIED to and asked politely to represent
that org and use the Mag title. OH IT MATTERS. You fucking bet it matters.
Kick them out, hey? Lemme see them kick out that CO9 member then.

Official policies do not allow pedophiles in either, but THERE WAS
BLUMENTHAL - having already BEEN convicted of child molestation, LAVEY (not
Gilmore) gave him a priesthood and a grotto. OH it DOES matter. More of
LaVey giving him a WINK of the eye, I'm sure. Go ahead, worm your way out
of that one - try hard.

OFFICIAL policies also do not advocate human or animal sacrifice. Ditto
Ditto baby. That's the way it goes.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:58:25 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Who really gives two pinches of shit?
Bobo does - obviously. Others do too, obviously. But your statement misses
the point. The org you belong to CLAIMS TO BE against drug use. And they
use drugs! Well, they CLAIM TO BE against a great many things. And at
least one of those things well, Gidney, Blumenthal - Blumenthal was given
that Priesthood AFTER HE WAS ALREADY convicted of child molestation, buddy.
So then, what your org claims to be against - is just a LIE told to the
gullible public. Got it? Who gives a shit about it? You tell me, buddy.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:07:11 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
Tell me, Tom. Exactly how are you supposed to indulge anything besides
your desire to be sodomized from inside a prison?
Plenty. How about you?
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Well, you better stop, because them's the rulez.
Whatever...
See there? Another example of a satanist defying the imposition of
inconvenient rules. It's at the very core of satanism to do that.
And if the TV police stop by my house on a Monday night, I guess I'll
be in trouble.
Fact is, at least 3 of the co-founders of the SR break the law everytime
they have sex, if what Tom said is true. They are gay.
The point is, Ben, that the SR has NO rules whatsoever about drugs,
sexuality or whatever. NONE. One of the SR's is IRA member just out of
jail for IRA activity. Another one went to jail for murder in what some
might say was justified preemptive self defense. Hey, Bush does that all
the time :) We have NO rules about that. I know at least one in the egroup
that has used drugs - I think you know him too, not sure. So what?
The difference is that the COS used to be hard line anti drugs - and NOT
because it was illegal - but for other reasons. Or - correction. I
believed they were anti drugs for the reasons they stated simply because
they STATED they were. Naive me, my BAD. I have changed my mind. The hash
pipe, how his house actually was (unthinkable that ANY person that cares for
himself would let a house fall into ruin like that - and DUST, inches thick?
really, LIKE a crack house and dark and gloomly too, not well lit anywhere)
and the testimony of a person that sought to flame me - that's enough
for
me
to believe that this was just one more COS LIE. 180 degree turnaround.
Did anyone do an autopsy to see if drugs were in his system?
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But not in that order."- Brian Pickrell
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2005-01-23 11:07:56 UTC
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Please see in text...

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:57:06 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Right...
All of a sudden you decide to make a 180 on the topic and that means
it must be true.
It means that the COS LIED becauase testimony exists to show that druggies
are in the very HIERARCHY of that org. GOT IT? Don't you know what the
Council of Nine is?
First, it does not mean they lied. It means they the organization does
not promote drug use. The organization is not the people in that
organization.

The are you an SR web page states that all people have a right to
health care. It does not qualify that by saying unless they are sick,
deformed or mentally deficient. You, however, have stated that you
believe that we should engage in eugenics much like the animal
kingdom.

Does this mean that SR is not in favor of universal healthcare, and,
hence, lied. Or, does this mean that Tani holds a view that may be
different from that of the organization?
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Besides, even if this is true, I've already explained that there is a
difference between the ideas of people in an organization & the
official policies of that organization.
When the hierarchs of that organization formerly asked ME, as Mag in it, to
"take on" the issue of drug use within the COS - that they DO NOT ALLOW IT
and will kick such people out - then it DOES matter, Benny.
What does this have to do with drugs?
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Bobo posted it.
Oh, it does matter. I remember you in your arguments with people in
#satanmuse - you adamantly and staunchly ANTI drug use. I remember that.
I am anti-drug use. I am also anti-drug law. I don't think it's the
governments business to tell adults what they can do in the privacy of
their own homes provided they aren't causing harm to others.

Now what does this have to do with anything?
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
I
would imagine that due to what I and others "claimed" that you believe that
the COS entirety was against it, would kick out such druggies.
You can imagine whatever you would like. It won't change reality.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Well, guess
again. AND IT DOES matter when I'm LIED to and asked politely to represent
that org and use the Mag title. OH IT MATTERS. You fucking bet it matters.
Kick them out, hey? Lemme see them kick out that CO9 member then.
Coming from the person who freely admits that she used her Mag title
to get people to do what she wanted, this seems rather hypocritical.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Official policies do not allow pedophiles in either, but THERE WAS
BLUMENTHAL - having already BEEN convicted of child molestation, LAVEY (not
Gilmore) gave him a priesthood and a grotto. OH it DOES matter. More of
LaVey giving him a WINK of the eye, I'm sure. Go ahead, worm your way out
of that one - try hard.
I don't need to "worm my way out" of anything. I don't care what LaVey
did when he was alive. Why? Because he's dead. And unless the person
involved, CoS or otherwise, directly affects me, my life, or the
people in it, I don't give a shit about what they do either.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
OFFICIAL policies also do not advocate human or animal sacrifice. Ditto
Ditto baby. That's the way it goes.
And you're point is?
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:58:25 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Who really gives two pinches of shit?
Bobo does - obviously. Others do too, obviously. But your statement misses
the point. The org you belong to CLAIMS TO BE against drug use. And they
use drugs! Well, they CLAIM TO BE against a great many things. And at
least one of those things well, Gidney, Blumenthal - Blumenthal was given
that Priesthood AFTER HE WAS ALREADY convicted of child molestation, buddy.
So then, what your org claims to be against - is just a LIE told to the
gullible public. Got it? Who gives a shit about it? You tell me, buddy.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:07:11 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Post by Ben Schultz
Tell me, Tom. Exactly how are you supposed to indulge anything besides
your desire to be sodomized from inside a prison?
Plenty. How about you?
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tom
Well, you better stop, because them's the rulez.
Whatever...
See there? Another example of a satanist defying the imposition of
inconvenient rules. It's at the very core of satanism to do that.
And if the TV police stop by my house on a Monday night, I guess I'll
be in trouble.
Fact is, at least 3 of the co-founders of the SR break the law everytime
they have sex, if what Tom said is true. They are gay.
The point is, Ben, that the SR has NO rules whatsoever about drugs,
sexuality or whatever. NONE. One of the SR's is IRA member just out of
jail for IRA activity. Another one went to jail for murder in what some
might say was justified preemptive self defense. Hey, Bush does that all
the time :) We have NO rules about that. I know at least one in the egroup
that has used drugs - I think you know him too, not sure. So what?
The difference is that the COS used to be hard line anti drugs - and NOT
because it was illegal - but for other reasons. Or - correction. I
believed they were anti drugs for the reasons they stated simply because
they STATED they were. Naive me, my BAD. I have changed my mind. The hash
pipe, how his house actually was (unthinkable that ANY person that cares for
himself would let a house fall into ruin like that - and DUST, inches thick?
really, LIKE a crack house and dark and gloomly too, not well lit anywhere)
and the testimony of a person that sought to flame me - that's enough
for
me
to believe that this was just one more COS LIE. 180 degree turnaround.
Did anyone do an autopsy to see if drugs were in his system?
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But not in that order."- Brian Pickrell
www.devilzown.com
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Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-24 01:58:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ben Schultz
Please see in text...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:57:06 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Right...
All of a sudden you decide to make a 180 on the topic and that means
it must be true.
It means that the COS LIED becauase testimony exists to show that druggies
are in the very HIERARCHY of that org. GOT IT? Don't you know what the
Council of Nine is?
First, it does not mean they lied. It means they the organization does
not promote drug use. The organization is not the people in that
organization.
The are you an SR web page states that all people have a right to
health care. It does not qualify that by saying unless they are sick,
deformed or mentally deficient. You, however, have stated that you
believe that we should engage in eugenics much like the animal
kingdom.
And?
Post by Ben Schultz
Does this mean that SR is not in favor of universal healthcare, and,
hence, lied. Or, does this mean that Tani holds a view that may be
different from that of the organization?
Nope - rethink that one. Saying that humans SHOULD do what animals do
IDEALLY - they DO NOT do what animals do, however. Citizens in a country
(that's an SR qualifier) should have HEALTH CARE - an issue that is RIGHT
NOW and real, practical. Don't confuse the ideal with the real.
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Besides, even if this is true, I've already explained that there is a
difference between the ideas of people in an organization & the
official policies of that organization.
When the hierarchs of that organization formerly asked ME, as Mag in it, to
"take on" the issue of drug use within the COS - that they DO NOT ALLOW IT
and will kick such people out - then it DOES matter, Benny.
What does this have to do with drugs?
Can you read? "Make a statement for the COS regarding anti drug stance and
stance that users will be KICKED OUT." That has to do with drugs, boy.
Post by Ben Schultz
Coming from the person who freely admits that she used her Mag title
to get people to do what she wanted, this seems rather hypocritical.
Hypocrite is not a word that phases me in the least. What I did was
STRATEGICAL - in the sense of "WAR" boy. What amazes me is that during a
time when those making war on me were making it - they didn't KNOW they were
doing this? As hostile and bothersome and meddelsome as they were, they did
not KNOW this? I declared it and still, they did not KNOW this? I find
that amazing, it makes me believe what Jews think - that the goyim are
FUCKING COWS - AS STUPID AS GRASS.
Ben Schultz
2005-01-24 08:07:48 UTC
Permalink
You are the most accomplished mental gymnast I have ever had the
privilege... nay... the honor of reading. A response from you reads
like Clinton grand Jury testimony.

So now Peggy asked you to get evidence of drug use in the CoS? When
did that happen?

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:58:44 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Please see in text...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:57:06 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Right...
All of a sudden you decide to make a 180 on the topic and that means
it must be true.
It means that the COS LIED becauase testimony exists to show that druggies
are in the very HIERARCHY of that org. GOT IT? Don't you know what the
Council of Nine is?
First, it does not mean they lied. It means they the organization does
not promote drug use. The organization is not the people in that
organization.
The are you an SR web page states that all people have a right to
health care. It does not qualify that by saying unless they are sick,
deformed or mentally deficient. You, however, have stated that you
believe that we should engage in eugenics much like the animal
kingdom.
And?
Post by Ben Schultz
Does this mean that SR is not in favor of universal healthcare, and,
hence, lied. Or, does this mean that Tani holds a view that may be
different from that of the organization?
Nope - rethink that one. Saying that humans SHOULD do what animals do
IDEALLY - they DO NOT do what animals do, however. Citizens in a country
(that's an SR qualifier) should have HEALTH CARE - an issue that is RIGHT
NOW and real, practical. Don't confuse the ideal with the real.
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Besides, even if this is true, I've already explained that there is a
difference between the ideas of people in an organization & the
official policies of that organization.
When the hierarchs of that organization formerly asked ME, as Mag in it, to
"take on" the issue of drug use within the COS - that they DO NOT ALLOW IT
and will kick such people out - then it DOES matter, Benny.
What does this have to do with drugs?
Can you read? "Make a statement for the COS regarding anti drug stance and
stance that users will be KICKED OUT." That has to do with drugs, boy.
Post by Ben Schultz
Coming from the person who freely admits that she used her Mag title
to get people to do what she wanted, this seems rather hypocritical.
Hypocrite is not a word that phases me in the least. What I did was
STRATEGICAL - in the sense of "WAR" boy. What amazes me is that during a
time when those making war on me were making it - they didn't KNOW they were
doing this? As hostile and bothersome and meddelsome as they were, they did
not KNOW this? I declared it and still, they did not KNOW this? I find
that amazing, it makes me believe what Jews think - that the goyim are
FUCKING COWS - AS STUPID AS GRASS.
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Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-24 11:49:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ben Schultz
You are the most accomplished mental gymnast I have ever had the
privilege... nay... the honor of reading. A response from you reads
like Clinton grand Jury testimony.
[clip]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Gee whiz, nothing biased about this guy, Wally
Ben Schultz
2005-01-24 20:51:52 UTC
Permalink
Who claimed I was unbiased?

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:49:45 GMT, "Blazin' Tommy D."
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Post by Ben Schultz
You are the most accomplished mental gymnast I have ever had the
privilege... nay... the honor of reading. A response from you reads
like Clinton grand Jury testimony.
[clip]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Gee whiz, nothing biased about this guy, Wally
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Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-24 23:30:17 UTC
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Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Post by Ben Schultz
You are the most accomplished mental gymnast I have ever had the
privilege... nay... the honor of reading. A response from you reads
like Clinton grand Jury testimony.
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BTD: Gee whiz, nothing biased about this guy, Wally
He is SO biased that when his PAL defaced my photos and turned them to porn
and posted them to websites (all torn down) and then posted them to
newsgroups - he had NOTHING to say to chide the man for doing such a stupid
childish thing. But when I piped up to complain about it, he chided me.
It's par for the course among the Church of SatanPOO members.

He likes to take the pretend HIGH moral ground against me for COMPLAINING
about the really offensive shit his org members and pals do - but he never
takes the HIGH moral ground against the originator of the problem. He's a
weak, cowardly, moron - just one more of them. He is fond of saying that
I'm too intelligent to be bothered with this. Is this an admission that his
pals are imbeciles? I guess so. The thing is, he is so transparent with
this "high moral bullshit" that I have to wonder if he knows he's doing it.
Because if he doesn't, then he's another IQ-70 loser.

It's THEM who take small statements and run with them, making them into
something I never said. I just LET them do it - and in that sense I might
LIE to them as my enemies - lie by omission. If anyone who is without
motive asks me sincerely - I'd tell them! But what they do then, is take
their own fantasy and run with it - and they TRY to put their own bullshit
into my mouth. For that - I made the "sig file for assholes" which allows
me to not answer them, just post the urls with the EXACT info on them.
Dagon Productions
2005-01-25 03:49:37 UTC
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Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Post by Ben Schultz
You are the most accomplished mental gymnast I have ever had the
privilege... nay... the honor of reading. A response from you reads
like Clinton grand Jury testimony.
[clip]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Gee whiz, nothing biased about this guy, Wally
He is SO biased that when his PAL defaced my photos and turned them to porn
and posted them to websites (all torn down) and then posted them to
newsgroups - he had NOTHING to say to chide the man for doing such a stupid
childish thing.
First off, having a few exchanges with people on usenet hardly
constitutes someone
as my "PAL." But tani always lumps anyone that chides her for her
idiocy as all
being "pals," "the gang," etc. Total bullshit and only goes to show the
mental
illness tani projects with her little conspiracies re: people that are
rip her for
her kookdom.

Not all torn down tani... only the urls I posted here... I occasionally get
emails from people wanting to see the pics... I have them on other sites.
I can keep posting them as attachments as well and I will keep posting
my parodies of you, esp. since you are the online rep of the satanic
retards, if you keep piping up about it. One day you will learn to
shut the fuck up and let things die... but you keep beating the dead
horse until it brings it back to life.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
But when I piped up to complain about it, he chided me.
It's par for the course among the Church of SatanPOO members.
Ya fuckin' retard... you chided him for not speaking up about it. He
didn't
care to comment but you so badly wanted him to. He wouldn't cowtow to
your demands or wishes. That was the situation ya dumbass.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
He likes to take the pretend HIGH moral ground against me for COMPLAINING
about the really offensive shit his org members and pals do - but he never
takes the HIGH moral ground against the originator of the problem. He's a
weak, cowardly, moron - just one more of them. He is fond of saying that
I'm too intelligent to be bothered with this. Is this an admission that his
pals are imbeciles? I guess so. The thing is, he is so transparent with
this "high moral bullshit" that I have to wonder if he knows he's doing it.
Because if he doesn't, then he's another IQ-70 loser.
tani, the only mental moron here in this debacle you speak of is
yourself. Number one, you
post your hidious photos to the net, number two you brag how pretty you
are (gag!,) number
three you state that no one can parody your pics you post (wrong! and
proven so by myself, of
which you can't do a damn thing about but get them removed from major
free websites that
don't want the hassle) and number four... you keep going on and on about
it, which is only
an impetus to keep posting them. Get a fuckin' clue ya dumbass.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
It's THEM who take small statements and run with them, making them into
something I never said. I just LET them do it - and in that sense I might
LIE to them as my enemies - lie by omission. If anyone who is without
motive asks me sincerely - I'd tell them! But what they do then, is take
their own fantasy and run with it - and they TRY to put their own bullshit
into my mouth. For that - I made the "sig file for assholes" which allows
me to not answer them, just post the urls with the EXACT info on them.
But you still answer them... and post about it like you are doing here.
tani the self admitted hypocrite and liar.

But heh, she's alt.silly's village idiot... wouldn't be as much fun around
here without her moronic tactics and kook rants. .

-Douglas
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Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-26 03:34:33 UTC
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Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Post by Ben Schultz
You are the most accomplished mental gymnast I have ever had the
privilege... nay... the honor of reading. A response from you reads
like Clinton grand Jury testimony.
[clip]
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BTD: Gee whiz, nothing biased about this guy, Wally
He is SO biased
[clip]
Post by Dagon Productions
Not all torn down tani... only the urls I posted here... I occasionally get
emails from people wanting to see the pics... I have them on other sites.
I can keep posting them as attachments as well and I will keep posting
my parodies of you, esp. since you are the online rep of the satanic
retards, if you keep piping up about it. One day you will learn to
shut the fuck up and let things die... but you keep beating the dead
horse until it brings it back to life.
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BTD: Well see, you're confessing to ad hominem retribution. Posting some
sort of pictures of someone to a pornography site, using said pictures
without their permission and in such manner particularly when they are
clearly unrelated to the object of your controversy is a tort; and also a
remarkably stupid and childish thing to do. To an outsider like me it
suggests that you're unable to win a logical argument and thus resort to
fallacy.
Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-26 09:02:21 UTC
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BTD: Well see, you're confessing to ad hominem retribution. Posting some
sort of pictures of someone to a pornography site, using said pictures
without their permission and in such manner particularly when they are
clearly unrelated to the object of your controversy is a tort; and also a
remarkably stupid and childish thing to do. To an outsider like me it
suggests that you're unable to win a logical argument and thus resort to
fallacy.
Indeed! He has no idea if pictures of the FAT PIG that is his whore are up
on porn sites, since put there back, heh. He does the equivalent of writing
numbers on the bathroom walls with stupid messages under them. That's his
speed!

He can deface pictures of me all he wants - I'm still built better than the
pig he can't fuck (LOL), and that's a real LOL. I'm 54 freaking years old
and look better than that woofer. Is this your real email? Heh, I'll email
you photos. Hell, the WORST photo on the planet of me taken last year back
from the beach (and grungy as hell) is better looking that his ho.
Dagon Productions
2005-01-26 18:08:09 UTC
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Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
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BTD: Well see, you're confessing to ad hominem retribution. Posting some
sort of pictures of someone to a pornography site, using said pictures
without their permission and in such manner particularly when they are
clearly unrelated to the object of your controversy is a tort; and also a
remarkably stupid and childish thing to do. To an outsider like me it
suggests that you're unable to win a logical argument and thus resort to
fallacy.
Indeed! He has no idea if pictures of the FAT PIG that is his whore are up
on porn sites, since put there back, heh. He does the equivalent of writing
numbers on the bathroom walls with stupid messages under them. That's his
speed!
And you are doing the same. And I don't care if pics of my partners are
on the web... hell my
last wife was a stripper/fetish model... all kinds of pics are on the
net of her. Look up Eva Lux.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
He can deface pictures of me all he wants - I'm still built better than the
pig he can't fuck (LOL), and that's a real LOL. I'm 54 freaking years old
and look better than that woofer. Is this your real email? Heh, I'll email
you photos. Hell, the WORST photo on the planet of me taken last year back
from the beach (and grungy as hell) is better looking that his ho.
trani, you are a legend in your own mind regarding your looks... only
the moron nomeo has
said you look good... everyone else seems to gag at your pics. Funny
that you attack pics
of my partner but have nothing on me... hell I look better than your
pudgy partner phil... and
to think he is most certainly pussywhipped to serve you... thankfully
I'm more than a man
than that asskissing pinky dicked partner of yours.

-Douglas
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Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-26 23:19:14 UTC
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Phil, puggy? uh, no. pinky dicked? uh, heh, no. You are not a man. You
are a twisted freak - a failure as a human being.

No, I do not STOOP to the moronic juvenile behavior defacing photos -
something you and your pals were quick to chide Egan for doing to Lisa.

"Dagon Productions" <***@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:***@earthlink.net...
hell I look better than your
Post by Dagon Productions
pudgy partner phil... and
to think he is most certainly pussywhipped to serve you... thankfully I'm
more than a man
than that asskissing pinky dicked partner of yours.
-Douglas
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2005-01-27 03:20:46 UTC
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Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Phil, puggy? uh, no. pinky dicked? uh, heh, no.
Hell, yes, look at his photos.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
You are not a man. You
are a twisted freak - a failure as a human being.
Heh, no failure, though you wish it was that way.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
No, I do not STOOP to the moronic juvenile behavior defacing photos -
something you and your pals were quick to chide Egan for doing to Lisa.
Heh, I don't even know what you are talking about. I parody photos and
got your goat
obviosly... you are the fool here.

-Douglas
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
hell I look better than your
Post by Dagon Productions
pudgy partner phil... and
to think he is most certainly pussywhipped to serve you... thankfully I'm
more than a man
than that asskissing pinky dicked partner of yours.
-Douglas
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2005-01-26 17:54:32 UTC
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Post by Dagon Productions
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Post by Ben Schultz
You are the most accomplished mental gymnast I have ever had the
privilege... nay... the honor of reading. A response from you reads
like Clinton grand Jury testimony.
[clip]
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BTD: Gee whiz, nothing biased about this guy, Wally
He is SO biased
[clip]
Post by Dagon Productions
Not all torn down tani... only the urls I posted here... I occasionally
get
Post by Dagon Productions
emails from people wanting to see the pics... I have them on other sites.
I can keep posting them as attachments as well and I will keep posting
my parodies of you, esp. since you are the online rep of the satanic
retards, if you keep piping up about it. One day you will learn to
shut the fuck up and let things die... but you keep beating the dead
horse until it brings it back to life.
[clip]
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BTD: Well see, you're confessing to ad hominem retribution. Posting some
sort of pictures of someone to a pornography site, using said pictures
without their permission and in such manner particularly when they are
clearly unrelated to the object of your controversy is a tort; and also a
remarkably stupid and childish thing to do. To an outsider like me it
suggests that you're unable to win a logical argument and thus resort to
fallacy.
Get your facts straight (I know straight is hard for you to do.) Pics
were not posted
to a pornography site ya fuckwad. A pic of tani was photoshop'd to portray
humor regarding tani's article re: blowjob culture as well as some of
her racist
statements. A parody of a usenet org public figure period.

Figures you would swallow tanis tripe and read into my post your idiotic
perception. Next time, get a clue about what you are talking about
before opening your
asshole mouth.

-Douglas
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Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-26 23:24:16 UTC
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He's right. What you are doing is not parody at all. It's libel with
malice of forethought. It's copyright infringement with malice of
forethought. It's a tort. He's right. You are quite obsessed - and that
is psychotic.
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Post by Dagon Productions
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Post by Ben Schultz
You are the most accomplished mental gymnast I have ever had the
privilege... nay... the honor of reading. A response from you reads
like Clinton grand Jury testimony.
[clip]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Gee whiz, nothing biased about this guy, Wally
He is SO biased
[clip]
Post by Dagon Productions
Not all torn down tani... only the urls I posted here... I occasionally
get
Post by Dagon Productions
emails from people wanting to see the pics... I have them on other sites.
I can keep posting them as attachments as well and I will keep posting
my parodies of you, esp. since you are the online rep of the satanic
retards, if you keep piping up about it. One day you will learn to
shut the fuck up and let things die... but you keep beating the dead
horse until it brings it back to life.
[clip]
Post by Dagon Productions
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BTD: Well see, you're confessing to ad hominem retribution. Posting some
sort of pictures of someone to a pornography site, using said pictures
without their permission and in such manner particularly when they are
clearly unrelated to the object of your controversy is a tort; and also a
remarkably stupid and childish thing to do. To an outsider like me it
suggests that you're unable to win a logical argument and thus resort to
fallacy.
Get your facts straight (I know straight is hard for you to do.) Pics were
not posted
to a pornography site ya fuckwad. A pic of tani was photoshop'd to portray
humor regarding tani's article re: blowjob culture as well as some of her
racist
statements. A parody of a usenet org public figure period.
Figures you would swallow tanis tripe and read into my post your idiotic
perception. Next time, get a clue about what you are talking about before
opening your
asshole mouth.
-Douglas
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Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-26 03:28:46 UTC
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Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Post by Ben Schultz
You are the most accomplished mental gymnast I have ever had the
privilege... nay... the honor of reading. A response from you reads
like Clinton grand Jury testimony.
[clip]
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BTD: Gee whiz, nothing biased about this guy, Wally
He is SO biased
[clip]
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BTD: I think it prit near goes without saying
Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-24 23:20:13 UTC
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Post by Ben Schultz
You are the most accomplished mental gymnast I have ever had the
privilege... nay... the honor of reading. A response from you reads
like Clinton grand Jury testimony.
So now Peggy asked you to get evidence of drug use in the CoS? When
did that happen?
That is not what I said. You are the most accomplished misreader I've
ever....actually I've met quite a few of them. Asking me to speak up on the
COS's anti drug use policy and/or that such drug users would be expelled -
is not the same as getting evidence that anyone uses them. The post Bobo
pulled up where I did indeed sign with the Mag title was only one such post,
done by request.

Now, I'm sure that P and P both must know exactly WHO that Council of Nine
member is that does use illegal drugs. 1% chance that they don't know. I
also remember the major hub bub made within the COS when - forgot his
name - that BAND guy got handed a degree by Lavey and he was a well known
drug user. BIG hub bub over that. Before your time.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:58:44 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Please see in text...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:57:06 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Right...
All of a sudden you decide to make a 180 on the topic and that means
it must be true.
It means that the COS LIED becauase testimony exists to show that druggies
are in the very HIERARCHY of that org. GOT IT? Don't you know what the
Council of Nine is?
First, it does not mean they lied. It means they the organization does
not promote drug use. The organization is not the people in that
organization.
The are you an SR web page states that all people have a right to
health care. It does not qualify that by saying unless they are sick,
deformed or mentally deficient. You, however, have stated that you
believe that we should engage in eugenics much like the animal
kingdom.
And?
Post by Ben Schultz
Does this mean that SR is not in favor of universal healthcare, and,
hence, lied. Or, does this mean that Tani holds a view that may be
different from that of the organization?
Nope - rethink that one. Saying that humans SHOULD do what animals do
IDEALLY - they DO NOT do what animals do, however. Citizens in a country
(that's an SR qualifier) should have HEALTH CARE - an issue that is RIGHT
NOW and real, practical. Don't confuse the ideal with the real.
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Besides, even if this is true, I've already explained that there is a
difference between the ideas of people in an organization & the
official policies of that organization.
When the hierarchs of that organization formerly asked ME, as Mag in
it,
to
"take on" the issue of drug use within the COS - that they DO NOT ALLOW IT
and will kick such people out - then it DOES matter, Benny.
What does this have to do with drugs?
Can you read? "Make a statement for the COS regarding anti drug stance and
stance that users will be KICKED OUT." That has to do with drugs, boy.
Post by Ben Schultz
Coming from the person who freely admits that she used her Mag title
to get people to do what she wanted, this seems rather hypocritical.
Hypocrite is not a word that phases me in the least. What I did was
STRATEGICAL - in the sense of "WAR" boy. What amazes me is that during a
time when those making war on me were making it - they didn't KNOW they were
doing this? As hostile and bothersome and meddelsome as they were, they did
not KNOW this? I declared it and still, they did not KNOW this? I find
that amazing, it makes me believe what Jews think - that the goyim are
FUCKING COWS - AS STUPID AS GRASS.
"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.
But not in that order."- Brian Pickrell
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2005-01-25 03:34:48 UTC
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Post by Ben Schultz
You are the most accomplished mental gymnast I have ever had the
privilege... nay... the honor of reading. A response from you reads
like Clinton grand Jury testimony.
So now Peggy asked you to get evidence of drug use in the CoS? When
did that happen?
That is not what I said. You are the most accomplished misreader I've
ever....actually I've met quite a few of them. Asking me to speak up on the
COS's anti drug use policy and/or that such drug users would be expelled -
is not the same as getting evidence that anyone uses them. The post Bobo
pulled up where I did indeed sign with the Mag title was only one such post,
done by request.
Now, I'm sure that P and P both must know exactly WHO that Council of Nine
member is that does use illegal drugs. 1% chance that they don't know. I
also remember the major hub bub made within the COS when - forgot his
name - that BAND guy got handed a degree by Lavey and he was a well known
drug user. BIG hub bub over that. Before your time.
trani, you are such a dumbass... you think the CoS, in which many
members imbibe
alcohol ( a legal drug in which causes more injury to health than say
marijuana) is
going to start a witchhunt over a member smoking some pot socially or
partaking
of mushroom tea on rare occasion. They don't give a shit about such
innocuous
drugs as these... though if someone doesn't take care of business due to
incessant pot smoking, crack/speed/heroin use then I'm sure they would
kick their ass out. If occasional recreational drug use doesn't affect the
member or the org, then why would anyone make a stink about it.
Obviously they would not, which is how the situation stands... only
dumbasses like yourself let the gov't tell you what you can and cannot
take or handle.

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SOD of the CoE
2005-01-26 00:34:25 UTC
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reporting for duty. ::saluting::

Dagon Productions <***@earthlink.net>:
# Tani:
# >"Ben Schultz" <***@devilzown.com>:

# [to Tani] ...you think the CoS, in which many members imbibe
# alcohol ( a legal drug in which causes more injury to health
# than say marijuana)

does it lead to "mindlessness"? this seems to be the state that
the CoS was attempting to avoid.

# is going to start a witchhunt over a member smoking some pot
# socially or partaking of mushroom tea on rare occasion. They
# don't give a shit about such innocuous drugs as these... though
# if someone doesn't take care of business due to incessant pot
# smoking, crack/speed/heroin use

not uncommon. some potheads are completely unreliable, some of
the rest of the harder substance-users may be dangerous or very
parasitic on account of their all-encompassing habit.

# then I'm sure they would kick their ass out.

that's what I thought it was: an occasionally useful policy.

# If occasional recreational drug use doesn't affect the
# member or the org, then why would anyone make a stink about it.

if it were public, which would be a type of "affect" you mention.

# Obviously they would not, which is how the situation stands....

that's my understanding. this is the direction that the OTO went
also, and allows some of the heat from the DEA to be evaded, even
though the organization pretty much stands for individualism
otherwise.

blessed beast!

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# [to Tani] ...you think the CoS, in which many members imbibe
# alcohol ( a legal drug in which causes more injury to health
# than say marijuana)
does it lead to "mindlessness"? this seems to be the state that
the CoS was attempting to avoid.
IMHO, it leads to poor decision making, which fall under the umbrella of
"mindlessness."
Post by SOD of the CoE
# is going to start a witchhunt over a member smoking some pot
# socially or partaking of mushroom tea on rare occasion. They
# don't give a shit about such innocuous drugs as these... though
# if someone doesn't take care of business due to incessant pot
# smoking, crack/speed/heroin use
not uncommon. some potheads are completely unreliable, some of
the rest of the harder substance-users may be dangerous or very
parasitic on account of their all-encompassing habit.
I agree but there are some potheads that are quite prolific. Friend and
Frater William S. Burroughs admitted that when on heroin he wasted
most of his time, but in his later years he smoked pot daily while
still keeping a rigorous work ethic in regards to his art.
Post by SOD of the CoE
# then I'm sure they would kick their ass out.
that's what I thought it was: an occasionally useful policy.
# If occasional recreational drug use doesn't affect the
# member or the org, then why would anyone make a stink about it.
if it were public, which would be a type of "affect" you mention.
As mentioned previously poor decision making most likely brought on by
ones mental faculties being numbed or speeded up to detrimental levels.

As stated in another post LaVey made Marilyn Manson Priest in the CoS
while it was well known public knowledge that MM used drugs frequently.
This alone definitely points to exceptions to the rule.
Post by SOD of the CoE
# Obviously they would not, which is how the situation stands....
that's my understanding. this is the direction that the OTO went
also, and allows some of the heat from the DEA to be evaded, even
though the organization pretty much stands for individualism
otherwise.
Agreed.
Post by SOD of the CoE
blessed beast!
boboroshi at-sign satanservice.org: Satanic Outreach Director
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2005-01-26 09:07:23 UTC
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Post by SOD of the CoE
# [to Tani] ...you think the CoS, in which many members imbibe
# alcohol ( a legal drug in which causes more injury to health
# than say marijuana)
That was not the issue at stake.
Post by SOD of the CoE
does it lead to "mindlessness"? this seems to be the state that
the CoS was attempting to avoid.
# is going to start a witchhunt over a member smoking some pot
# socially or partaking of mushroom tea on rare occasion. They
# don't give a shit about such innocuous drugs as these... though
# if someone doesn't take care of business due to incessant pot
# smoking, crack/speed/heroin use
It's ILLEGAL. That was at stake. Newflash: "John J. Jones, a member of the
Church of Satan, arrested for having (a bag of) pot in his home. His
children were asleep upstairs. Yadda yadda."
Post by SOD of the CoE
not uncommon. some potheads are completely unreliable, some of
the rest of the harder substance-users may be dangerous or very
parasitic on account of their all-encompassing habit.
# then I'm sure they would kick their ass out.
They don't kick out unreliable dickheads at all.
Post by SOD of the CoE
that's what I thought it was: an occasionally useful policy.
That was not their policy . The issue was LEGALITY, not satanic ethics.
Post by SOD of the CoE
# If occasional recreational drug use doesn't affect the
# member or the org, then why would anyone make a stink about it.
if it were public, which would be a type of "affect" you mention.
Again the PUBLICITY - illegal acts.
Post by SOD of the CoE
# Obviously they would not, which is how the situation stands....
that's my understanding. this is the direction that the OTO went
also, and allows some of the heat from the DEA to be evaded, even
though the organization pretty much stands for individualism
otherwise.
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2005-01-26 18:13:08 UTC
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Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by SOD of the CoE
# [to Tani] ...you think the CoS, in which many members imbibe
# alcohol ( a legal drug in which causes more injury to health
# than say marijuana)
That was not the issue at stake.
But quite relevant... you just don't want to face the facts ya kook.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by SOD of the CoE
does it lead to "mindlessness"? this seems to be the state that
the CoS was attempting to avoid.
# is going to start a witchhunt over a member smoking some pot
# socially or partaking of mushroom tea on rare occasion. They
# don't give a shit about such innocuous drugs as these... though
# if someone doesn't take care of business due to incessant pot
# smoking, crack/speed/heroin use
It's ILLEGAL. That was at stake. Newflash: "John J. Jones, a member of the
Church of Satan, arrested for having (a bag of) pot in his home. His
children were asleep upstairs. Yadda yadda."
And anyone would give a fuck about this other than you? I think not.
Anyone
that gets their panties in a wad and attempts to criticize someone for
getting
busted for pot when it is more innocuous than weed is a moron.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by SOD of the CoE
not uncommon. some potheads are completely unreliable, some of
the rest of the harder substance-users may be dangerous or very
parasitic on account of their all-encompassing habit.
# then I'm sure they would kick their ass out.
They don't kick out unreliable dickheads at all.
Yes, they do... they kicked you out.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by SOD of the CoE
that's what I thought it was: an occasionally useful policy.
That was not their policy . The issue was LEGALITY, not satanic ethics.
Than why did LaVey give a title to a well known drug user Marilyn Manson?
What you state doesn't stand up to the facts dumbass.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by SOD of the CoE
# If occasional recreational drug use doesn't affect the
# member or the org, then why would anyone make a stink about it.
if it were public, which would be a type of "affect" you mention.
Again the PUBLICITY - illegal acts.
Like anyone gives a shit about weed. The publicity for giving a well known
drug user a CoS title hasn't harmed the CoS whatsoever.
Talk some out of your ass trani. We expect as much.

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si
2005-01-26 22:54:45 UTC
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Can't believe what I'm reading here. Drug use is frowned upon!?!?!?

What ever happened to 'do as thou wilt?'

Or is it now 'do as thou wilt as long as its something your satanist church
approves of?'

Fucking fascists!!!!!!!!

Is it a case of when someone gets to the top of the church they impose their
little rules and regulations on the others - doing it in the name of their
chuch?

If someone smokes a joint after they have got in from a hard days work
earning their money and they want to sit and smoke a joint who's business is
that?

If someone goes out at the end of every month after working hard and takes a
couple of pills or sniffs a line of coke then why should they not. Its
their money, they can do what they want with it. They are not harming
anyone else. Its their decision to do what they want to themselves.

If they are not addicted then whats the beef?

Even if they were addicted...its their choice. So long as they are not
stealing or hurting anyone else then thats their perogative.

Even the Catholic church (which you all hate so much for being a rule maker)
admits Jesus was a toker. Long hair, sandals, didn't have a proper job -
fits the bill.

Its the same a drinking. Some people would rather have a pint - some would
rather have half a pill. Each to their own. Doesn't bother me.

And don't use the law as an excuse. More people die in this country every
year from bay leaves then do from ecstacy. You have more chance of winning
the national lottry than of dying from ecstacy. I hate to think of how many
people die from nuts as well. Banning bay leaves or nuts would prent more
deaths than banning ecstacy.

So don't tell me the law is a bit fucked up there! The people who make the
decisions about the law are too closely tied in to the people who run the
brewries and its the brewries that would loose in the end - thats why many
drugs aren't legal. Not because of their effects.

I think its pretty fucking sad that anyone needs a church anyways. I mean
why? To interfer? Get in the way? Make up stupid rules for the lambs to
follow? So the weak minded have somewhere to hang out? As a social support
group for those rejected by others/bullied at school?

And yes, I am thinking of the film Stigmata...I don't need anyone between me
and my God and you lot shouldn't need anyone between you and satan.

And to those that don't actually believe in satan...you have even less
reason to be part of a fucking church! Obviously its just a meeting for the
socially rejected to feel powerful or have a role.

King of Kings? At least you get to be King of fucking social rejects for a
day.
Wortenheimer
2005-01-27 00:13:35 UTC
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Post by si
And to those that don't actually believe in satan...you have even less
reason to be part of a fucking church! Obviously its just a meeting for the
socially rejected to feel powerful or have a role.
you don't get it. a satanist doesn't give three flying dead bears about
social acceptance or rejection except insofar as it might further their
goals in a specific scenario. satanists, true satanists, have powerful
personalities and they use them as it suits their needs. satanists don't
give a shit about being popular or "accepted" within the herd. i don't, but
i have everything i need in the social sphere.

in regard to drug use it's simply a matter of not needing to escape. a
satanist doesn't feel the need to fry his/her brain to lose touch with
reality, just as a satanist doesn't have any need for a "savior" to escape
from the painful humdrum of herd existence.
si
2005-01-27 02:30:53 UTC
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Post by Wortenheimer
Post by si
And to those that don't actually believe in satan...you have even less
reason to be part of a fucking church! Obviously its just a meeting for the
socially rejected to feel powerful or have a role.
you don't get it. a satanist doesn't give three flying dead bears about
social acceptance or rejection except insofar as it might further their
goals in a specific scenario. satanists, true satanists, have powerful
personalities and they use them as it suits their needs. satanists don't
give a shit about being popular or "accepted" within the herd. i don't, but
i have everything i need in the social sphere.
Powerful personalities...yeah, yeah...we all believe you.
Post by Wortenheimer
in regard to drug use it's simply a matter of not needing to escape. a
satanist doesn't feel the need to fry his/her brain to lose touch with
reality, just as a satanist doesn't have any need for a "savior" to escape
from the painful humdrum of herd existence.
You just don't get it do you. Its not about escaping...its about having a
fucking laugh and feeling good. what do you think happens when you take
drugs? You think you go somewhere else for a few hours?

Not all drugs fry your brain. You should do some research for yourself.
Check out the New Scientist artiles. There was one about 3 months ago on
the use of drugs.

Drugs aren't about escapism. They are about having a laugh and opening
different areas of your brain. Thats all. The New Scientist article I
refer to points out that this consciousness may just have formed for the
predator/prey scenario. It goes on to point out that this might not be the
best consciousness for experiments and other things in life.

Just because I walk from the living room into the kitchen - does mean I am
trying to escape the living room. Maybe I just want something from the
kitchen.
Wortenheimer
2005-01-27 03:06:48 UTC
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Post by si
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by si
And to those that don't actually believe in satan...you have even less
reason to be part of a fucking church! Obviously its just a meeting
for
the
socially rejected to feel powerful or have a role.
you don't get it. a satanist doesn't give three flying dead bears about
social acceptance or rejection except insofar as it might further their
goals in a specific scenario. satanists, true satanists, have powerful
personalities and they use them as it suits their needs. satanists don't
give a shit about being popular or "accepted" within the herd. i don't,
but
Post by Wortenheimer
i have everything i need in the social sphere.
Powerful personalities...yeah, yeah...we all believe you.
we? multi personality disorder?
Post by si
Post by Wortenheimer
in regard to drug use it's simply a matter of not needing to escape. a
satanist doesn't feel the need to fry his/her brain to lose touch with
reality, just as a satanist doesn't have any need for a "savior" to escape
from the painful humdrum of herd existence.
You just don't get it do you. Its not about escaping...its about having a
fucking laugh and feeling good.
i do that all the time and the use of drugs are the furthest thing from my
mind. i've only addressed it in this group when the subject arises in
regard to "official policy," of which the CoS has none as far as i know.
other than that i tend to think of illicit drug users as losers. no big
deal. i don't think about them much.


what do you think happens when you take
Post by si
drugs? You think you go somewhere else for a few hours?
Not all drugs fry your brain. You should do some research for yourself.
Check out the New Scientist artiles. There was one about 3 months ago on
the use of drugs.
Drugs aren't about escapism. They are about having a laugh and opening
different areas of your brain. Thats all. The New Scientist article I
refer to points out that this consciousness may just have formed for the
predator/prey scenario. It goes on to point out that this might not be the
best consciousness for experiments and other things in life.
Just because I walk from the living room into the kitchen - does mean I am
trying to escape the living room. Maybe I just want something from the
kitchen.
Ben Schultz
2005-01-25 10:48:09 UTC
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Really?

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"When the hierarchs of that organization formerly asked ME, as Mag in
it, to "take on" the issue of drug use within the COS - that they DO
NOT ALLOW IT and will kick such people out - then it DOES matter,
Benny. "

Sure sound like you did to me.

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:20:13 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
You are the most accomplished mental gymnast I have ever had the
privilege... nay... the honor of reading. A response from you reads
like Clinton grand Jury testimony.
So now Peggy asked you to get evidence of drug use in the CoS? When
did that happen?
That is not what I said. You are the most accomplished misreader I've
ever....actually I've met quite a few of them. Asking me to speak up on the
COS's anti drug use policy and/or that such drug users would be expelled -
is not the same as getting evidence that anyone uses them. The post Bobo
pulled up where I did indeed sign with the Mag title was only one such post,
done by request.
Now, I'm sure that P and P both must know exactly WHO that Council of Nine
member is that does use illegal drugs. 1% chance that they don't know. I
also remember the major hub bub made within the COS when - forgot his
name - that BAND guy got handed a degree by Lavey and he was a well known
drug user. BIG hub bub over that. Before your time.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:58:44 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Please see in text...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:57:06 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Right...
All of a sudden you decide to make a 180 on the topic and that means
it must be true.
It means that the COS LIED becauase testimony exists to show that druggies
are in the very HIERARCHY of that org. GOT IT? Don't you know what the
Council of Nine is?
First, it does not mean they lied. It means they the organization does
not promote drug use. The organization is not the people in that
organization.
The are you an SR web page states that all people have a right to
health care. It does not qualify that by saying unless they are sick,
deformed or mentally deficient. You, however, have stated that you
believe that we should engage in eugenics much like the animal
kingdom.
And?
Post by Ben Schultz
Does this mean that SR is not in favor of universal healthcare, and,
hence, lied. Or, does this mean that Tani holds a view that may be
different from that of the organization?
Nope - rethink that one. Saying that humans SHOULD do what animals do
IDEALLY - they DO NOT do what animals do, however. Citizens in a country
(that's an SR qualifier) should have HEALTH CARE - an issue that is RIGHT
NOW and real, practical. Don't confuse the ideal with the real.
Post by Ben Schultz
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Besides, even if this is true, I've already explained that there is a
difference between the ideas of people in an organization & the
official policies of that organization.
When the hierarchs of that organization formerly asked ME, as Mag in
it,
to
"take on" the issue of drug use within the COS - that they DO NOT ALLOW IT
and will kick such people out - then it DOES matter, Benny.
What does this have to do with drugs?
Can you read? "Make a statement for the COS regarding anti drug stance and
stance that users will be KICKED OUT." That has to do with drugs, boy.
Post by Ben Schultz
Coming from the person who freely admits that she used her Mag title
to get people to do what she wanted, this seems rather hypocritical.
Hypocrite is not a word that phases me in the least. What I did was
STRATEGICAL - in the sense of "WAR" boy. What amazes me is that during a
time when those making war on me were making it - they didn't KNOW they were
doing this? As hostile and bothersome and meddelsome as they were, they did
not KNOW this? I declared it and still, they did not KNOW this? I find
that amazing, it makes me believe what Jews think - that the goyim are
FUCKING COWS - AS STUPID AS GRASS.
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Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-25 11:33:13 UTC
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Post by Ben Schultz
Really?
"When the hierarchs of that organization formerly asked ME, as Mag in
it, to "take on" the issue of drug use within the COS - that they DO
NOT ALLOW IT and will kick such people out - then it DOES matter,
Benny. "
Sure sound like you did to me.
Stick to context. Bobo posted a post I made with the sign "Mag" on it.
That is what I meant by "take on." DUH. I.e., speak on the org's stance ON
ALT.S. They also asked me to post something supposedly quoting M Manson.
They apparently asked Ole to do it too because he did it. FOR them. What,
they couldn't post it themselves? I thought maybe they couldn't, puter
broken, unable to access newsgroups, etc.

But this just backs up my thought - you can't read very well.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:20:13 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Ben Schultz
2005-01-25 13:05:30 UTC
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Stick to content my ass.

I asked you when Peggy asked you to get evidence of drug use.

You said that you never made such a claim. And questioned my ability
to read. I think there was a comment about a 70 something IQ thrown
into the mix as well.

I posted the exact phrase with header that I was referencing.

Don't give me this "take on" meant using your mag title bullshit.

First, I don't care about your title. I've said everything I have to
say on the subject numerous times before.

Second, your statement has nothing to do with signing something with
your title.

This interests me because you claim, in a post from September 7th of
2004, not to have been online until the end of 1999. My first recorded
post on usenet was in March of 2000, the 14th to be precise. That
means I was more than likely online when you were doing this secondary
investigation & I'd love to know when it was taking place.

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:33:13 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Really?
"When the hierarchs of that organization formerly asked ME, as Mag in
it, to "take on" the issue of drug use within the COS - that they DO
NOT ALLOW IT and will kick such people out - then it DOES matter,
Benny. "
Sure sound like you did to me.
Stick to context. Bobo posted a post I made with the sign "Mag" on it.
That is what I meant by "take on." DUH. I.e., speak on the org's stance ON
ALT.S. They also asked me to post something supposedly quoting M Manson.
They apparently asked Ole to do it too because he did it. FOR them. What,
they couldn't post it themselves? I thought maybe they couldn't, puter
broken, unable to access newsgroups, etc.
But this just backs up my thought - you can't read very well.
Post by Ben Schultz
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2005-01-25 22:16:38 UTC
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NO, someone says something online that's intended to be ANTI COS. . "Do you
want to take that on?" "Can you take that on?" It clearly means to RESPOND
to the statement online. It clearly means that. Like "take it from here."
It's a common expression.

When Balanone asked pointed questions and Peggy could not answer them, she
wrote to Phil and I and asked if we could "TAKE THAT ON." Phil did - he
answered the pointed questions. The result of that back and forth is here:

http://apodion.com/vad/article.php?id=10&aid=3
Post by Ben Schultz
Stick to content my ass.
I asked you when Peggy asked you to get evidence of drug use.
You said that you never made such a claim. And questioned my ability
to read. I think there was a comment about a 70 something IQ thrown
into the mix as well.
I posted the exact phrase with header that I was referencing.
Don't give me this "take on" meant using your mag title bullshit.
Take on means "ANSWER IT" - and yeah, as an "authority" figure. What the
hell else COULD that mean? Are you daft?
Post by Ben Schultz
First, I don't care about your title. I've said everything I have to
say on the subject numerous times before.
Second, your statement has nothing to do with signing something with
your title.
Yes it does - it means to ANSWER IT as an authority.
Post by Ben Schultz
This interests me because you claim, in a post from September 7th of
2004, not to have been online until the end of 1999. My first recorded
post on usenet was in March of 2000, the 14th to be precise. That
means I was more than likely online when you were doing this secondary
investigation & I'd love to know when it was taking place.
There was no investigation - are you nuts? As Bobo's quote of my post (a
post stating cos stance on drugs) shows, I simply RESPONDED and signed with
Mag title. And yes yes, that is exactly what they meant: RESPOND to it.
You are inventing shit and putting meaning to the words "Take that on" that
they just do not have, especially since the issue was a POST. It meant
respond to it - just as it meant RESPOND TO BALANONE far back in the past
where the only response possible was hard copy. Vad put it on a website -
and that article was there for years before I got online. "Take on the TOS
regarding the dark force in nature."

"Take it" "Take on" does not mean investigate. It means "take over, respond,
speak up." Even on a job - it means you stop doing what you are doing and
let someone else take it on.

That's ALL it was. I responded to a charge or insinuation and signed it
with a symbol (to them) of authority. I made a statement - and now it turns
out that they COULD have done that themselves and probably knew that the
anti-drug statement was BULLSHIT. Just like I can clearly see that their
anti child molestor stance is BULLSHIT since a convicted child molestor was
HANDED a Priesthood and a Grotto - Blumenthal.

No use trying to turn a simple turn of phrase into something it's NOT,
Benny. Give it up.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:33:13 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Ben Schultz
2005-01-26 00:43:11 UTC
Permalink
Ok, so when did you "take on" the drug problem?

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:16:38 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
NO, someone says something online that's intended to be ANTI COS. . "Do you
want to take that on?" "Can you take that on?" It clearly means to RESPOND
to the statement online. It clearly means that. Like "take it from here."
It's a common expression.
When Balanone asked pointed questions and Peggy could not answer them, she
wrote to Phil and I and asked if we could "TAKE THAT ON." Phil did - he
http://apodion.com/vad/article.php?id=10&aid=3
Post by Ben Schultz
Stick to content my ass.
I asked you when Peggy asked you to get evidence of drug use.
You said that you never made such a claim. And questioned my ability
to read. I think there was a comment about a 70 something IQ thrown
into the mix as well.
I posted the exact phrase with header that I was referencing.
Don't give me this "take on" meant using your mag title bullshit.
Take on means "ANSWER IT" - and yeah, as an "authority" figure. What the
hell else COULD that mean? Are you daft?
Post by Ben Schultz
First, I don't care about your title. I've said everything I have to
say on the subject numerous times before.
Second, your statement has nothing to do with signing something with
your title.
Yes it does - it means to ANSWER IT as an authority.
Post by Ben Schultz
This interests me because you claim, in a post from September 7th of
2004, not to have been online until the end of 1999. My first recorded
post on usenet was in March of 2000, the 14th to be precise. That
means I was more than likely online when you were doing this secondary
investigation & I'd love to know when it was taking place.
There was no investigation - are you nuts? As Bobo's quote of my post (a
post stating cos stance on drugs) shows, I simply RESPONDED and signed with
Mag title. And yes yes, that is exactly what they meant: RESPOND to it.
You are inventing shit and putting meaning to the words "Take that on" that
they just do not have, especially since the issue was a POST. It meant
respond to it - just as it meant RESPOND TO BALANONE far back in the past
where the only response possible was hard copy. Vad put it on a website -
and that article was there for years before I got online. "Take on the TOS
regarding the dark force in nature."
"Take it" "Take on" does not mean investigate. It means "take over, respond,
speak up." Even on a job - it means you stop doing what you are doing and
let someone else take it on.
That's ALL it was. I responded to a charge or insinuation and signed it
with a symbol (to them) of authority. I made a statement - and now it turns
out that they COULD have done that themselves and probably knew that the
anti-drug statement was BULLSHIT. Just like I can clearly see that their
anti child molestor stance is BULLSHIT since a convicted child molestor was
HANDED a Priesthood and a Grotto - Blumenthal.
No use trying to turn a simple turn of phrase into something it's NOT,
Benny. Give it up.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:33:13 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. But not in that order."- Brian Pickrell

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Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-26 09:07:24 UTC
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Ok, so when did you "take on" the drug problem?
Keep up, Benny. BOBO REPOSTED THE POST where I "spoke up." Speaking of
which, heh, I just said to someone else "would you take that on if you did
not have a calculator" - referring to doing math with HUGE numbers by hand -
no calculator.

I guess farm boy slang is not the same as city slang.

You really DO go on and on, like that battery.
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:16:38 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Ben Schultz
2005-01-26 15:55:25 UTC
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I'll stop as soon as you answer the question...

When?

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:07:24 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Ok, so when did you "take on" the drug problem?
Keep up, Benny. BOBO REPOSTED THE POST where I "spoke up." Speaking of
which, heh, I just said to someone else "would you take that on if you did
not have a calculator" - referring to doing math with HUGE numbers by hand -
no calculator.
I guess farm boy slang is not the same as city slang.
You really DO go on and on, like that battery.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:16:38 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
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2005-01-26 21:00:40 UTC
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I'll stop as soon as you answer the question...
When?
Fetch the post BOBO showed I wrote. That's when. Now, go fetch it - Bobo
posted it.

Or feel free to keep whenning me.
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:07:24 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Ok, so when did you "take on" the drug problem?
Keep up, Benny. BOBO REPOSTED THE POST where I "spoke up." Speaking of
which, heh, I just said to someone else "would you take that on if you did
not have a calculator" - referring to doing math with HUGE numbers by hand -
no calculator.
I guess farm boy slang is not the same as city slang.
You really DO go on and on, like that battery.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:16:38 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.
But not in that order."- Brian Pickrell
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2005-01-26 21:16:41 UTC
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"Whenning me?"???? what the fuck are you saying.

Just answer the question ya dumbass bitch.

-Douglas
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I'll stop as soon as you answer the question...
When?
Fetch the post BOBO showed I wrote. That's when. Now, go fetch it - Bobo
posted it.
Or feel free to keep whenning me.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:07:24 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Ben Schultz
Ok, so when did you "take on" the drug problem?
Keep up, Benny. BOBO REPOSTED THE POST where I "spoke up." Speaking of
which, heh, I just said to someone else "would you take that on if you did
not have a calculator" - referring to doing math with HUGE numbers by hand -
no calculator.
I guess farm boy slang is not the same as city slang.
You really DO go on and on, like that battery.
Post by Ben Schultz
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:16:38 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
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But not in that order."- Brian Pickrell
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2005-01-26 01:53:53 UTC
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Post by Ben Schultz
Really?
"When the hierarchs of that organization formerly asked ME, as Mag in
it, to "take on" the issue of drug use within the COS - that they DO
NOT ALLOW IT and will kick such people out - then it DOES matter,
Benny. "
Sure sound like you did to me.
Stick to context. Bobo posted a post I made with the sign "Mag" on it.
That is what I meant by "take on." DUH. I.e., speak on the org's stance ON
ALT.S. They also asked me to post something supposedly quoting M Manson.
Marilyn Manson is a well known admitted drug user... and heh... LaVey gave
him a title.

Explain that one trani.

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Post by Ben Schultz
Right...
All of a sudden you decide to make a 180 on the topic and that means
it must be true.
It means that the COS LIED becauase testimony exists to show that druggies
are in the very HIERARCHY of that org. GOT IT? Don't you know what the
Council of Nine is?
"Druggies?" Alcohol is a drug trani, thus you are a "druggie" as well.
And drugs being legal or illegal has nothing to do with it.

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Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-18 16:46:14 UTC
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Boboroshi (Nagasiva) (who archives these things) and some others are
having
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a dispute about Anton LaVey and his stance on drugs, and whether or not he
ever used them. Bobo brings up that he had hash pipes. I mentioned
that
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he
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collected such things only.
Nobody but a user or a cop collects drug paraphernalia and LaVey wasn't a
cop.
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BTD: Here's Tom again, can't find any fault in advocating Nazi-fascism by
dedicating books to General Haushofer but splits hair over whether someone
inhaled:)

Same thing with bitching about Kitty Yukamunduh selling spell kits while
posting to alt.magick, but has no problem with her selling "Lucky Penis
Swastika Oil":)

What a fucking crew
Wortenheimer
2005-01-18 11:00:41 UTC
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you are an assholette, oh demanding one.
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You are a COS spokesperson. How about speaking up?
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-18 17:46:27 UTC
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Wortenheimer
2005-01-18 18:16:11 UTC
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BTD: Well at least Tani ain't a whole ass.
keep addressing things about which you have no clue and people will think
you're on acid or something. punk.
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-18 22:47:32 UTC
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keep addressing things about which you have no clue and people will think
you're on acid or something. punk.
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BTD: Hey Wartwhore, ad hominem insults are easy, I can do them too. BTW
what's Angela Davis' best friends doing hanging out with Anton Svendor LeVey
folk? Just a common "way of life thing"? Or is name dropping and guilt by
association actually a fallacious form of argument, which in fact leaves you
bareassed little mista poopy diappie ooooo
Wortenheimer
2005-01-19 02:07:53 UTC
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keep addressing things about which you have no clue and people will think
you're on acid or something. punk.
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BTD: Hey Wartwhore, ad hominem insults are easy, I can do them too. BTW
what's Angela Davis' best friends doing hanging out with Anton Svendor LeVey
folk? Just a common "way of life thing"? Or is name dropping and guilt by
association actually a fallacious form of argument, which in fact leaves you
bareassed little mista poopy diappie ooooo
let me throw a few more names at ya. james warren, james harris and
kathleen mickells. they are fairly recent candidates of the socialist
workers party for president and vice president of the united states. know
any of em? i do. i've met them all and worked personally with kathleen
during my politically active years... umm.. let's see... ending nearly 20
years ago. punk.
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-19 05:20:25 UTC
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BTD: Well at least Tani ain't a whole ass.
keep addressing things about which you have no clue and people will think
you're on acid or something. punk.
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BTD: Hey Wartwhore, ad hominem insults are easy, I can do them too. BTW
what's Angela Davis' best friends doing hanging out with Anton Svendor LeVey
folk? Just a common "way of life thing"? Or is name dropping and guilt by
association actually a fallacious form of argument, which in fact leaves you
bareassed little mista poopy diappie ooooo
let me throw a few more names at ya. james warren, james harris and
kathleen mickells. they are fairly recent candidates of the socialist
workers party for president and vice president of the united states. know
any of em? i do. i've met them all and worked personally with kathleen
during my politically active years... umm.. let's see... ending nearly 20
years ago. punk.
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BTD: Name dropping doesn't mean shit to me, squirt; besides, you don't know
me.
Wortenheimer
2005-01-19 05:41:24 UTC
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BTD: Well at least Tani ain't a whole ass.
keep addressing things about which you have no clue and people will
think
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you're on acid or something. punk.
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BTD: Hey Wartwhore, ad hominem insults are easy, I can do them too. BTW
what's Angela Davis' best friends doing hanging out with Anton Svendor LeVey
folk? Just a common "way of life thing"? Or is name dropping and guilt
by
Post by Wortenheimer
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association actually a fallacious form of argument, which in fact
leaves
you
bareassed little mista poopy diappie ooooo
let me throw a few more names at ya. james warren, james harris and
kathleen mickells. they are fairly recent candidates of the socialist
workers party for president and vice president of the united states.
know
any of em? i do. i've met them all and worked personally with kathleen
during my politically active years... umm.. let's see... ending nearly
20
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years ago. punk.
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BTD: Name dropping doesn't mean shit to me, squirt; besides, you don't know
me.
possibly because you aren't important.
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-20 04:33:02 UTC
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BTD: Well at least Tani ain't a whole ass.
keep addressing things about which you have no clue and people will
think
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you're on acid or something. punk.
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BTD: Hey Wartwhore, ad hominem insults are easy, I can do them too. BTW
what's Angela Davis' best friends doing hanging out with Anton
Svendor
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LeVey
folk? Just a common "way of life thing"? Or is name dropping and guilt
by
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association actually a fallacious form of argument, which in fact
leaves
you
bareassed little mista poopy diappie ooooo
let me throw a few more names at ya. james warren, james harris and
kathleen mickells. they are fairly recent candidates of the socialist
workers party for president and vice president of the united states.
know
any of em? i do. i've met them all and worked personally with kathleen
during my politically active years... umm.. let's see... ending nearly
20
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years ago. punk.
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BTD: Name dropping doesn't mean shit to me, squirt; besides, you don't know
me.
possibly because you aren't important.
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BTD: Not to you, Smokey, I don't have much to do with barnyards unless maybe
there's an interesting stable boy around.
Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-19 01:25:57 UTC
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Tommy baby, I have a GREAT ass - even still :)
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2005-01-19 02:11:18 UTC
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BTD: Well at least Tani ain't a whole ass.
Tommy baby, I have a GREAT ass - even still :)
Yeah, right... your saggy tanned and leathered granny ass is "Great" to
those with a
fetish for such... but hardly anyone else with actual taste. Keep
dreaming trani.

-Douglas
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Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-19 05:27:57 UTC
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BTD: Well at least Tani ain't a whole ass.
Tommy baby, I have a GREAT ass - even still :)
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BTD: Well I'd definitely love to check it out. One of my favorite parts:)
http://profiles.myspace.com/users/11528497
If you become a member you can see the rest of my pics:)
Wortenheimer
2005-01-19 05:40:44 UTC
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BTD: Well at least Tani ain't a whole ass.
Tommy baby, I have a GREAT ass - even still :)
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BTD: Well I'd definitely love to check it out. One of my favorite parts:)
http://profiles.myspace.com/users/11528497
If you become a member you can see the rest of my pics:)
whoa! what's up with all those friggin ugly people!?
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-20 04:35:19 UTC
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BTD: Well at least Tani ain't a whole ass.
Tommy baby, I have a GREAT ass - even still :)
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BTD: Well I'd definitely love to check it out. One of my favorite parts:)
http://profiles.myspace.com/users/11528497
If you become a member you can see the rest of my pics:)
whoa! what's up with all those friggin ugly people!?
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BTD: Where's your picture Worthymen ... no please spare us
Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-19 01:25:56 UTC
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REPLY.
you are an assholette, oh demanding one.
Yes, I can be very demanding, dear. But the only assholes on here seems to
be you and your pals who always end up fucking up your own org more than
anyone in SR or the ToS could possibly fuck it up (Blumenthal, Gidney, la
dee dah, Zyklon B songs, Auschwitch Dancers - a big laugh - and pedophilia).
Point being, I quotes LaVey's own words for Bobo - who is archiving this -
since no one ELSE did it for him. Then I got 180 degrees opposite testimony
from a great pal of the council of niners of the COS - and sooooo - I
figured Matty might want to chime up and speak up on it - ahem, OFFICIALLY
and all that.

And so what's the secret word of the day, hey?

HEY, Catch the PBS Wed night at 9 PM on Auschwitz - clue - it's NOT gonna be
funny, ya fascist LaVey punk.
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You are a COS spokesperson. How about speaking up?
Wortenheimer
2005-01-19 02:00:32 UTC
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REPLY.
you are an assholette, oh demanding one.
Yes, I can be very demanding, dear. But the only assholes on here seems
to be you and your pals who always end up...
i hold a red card. nothing more. completely inactive. i don't know a
single satanist in this world aside from myself and a couple people (lovers,
namely) who have adopted my viewpoint on most things.

let's see. i haven't *ever* posted to this group before last night,
although i've been lurking for a few weeks. i don't know who the flock you
or anybody else *is,* let alone the idea of me having any "buddies" here.
as far as insinuating that my "buddies" are comprised of the CoS as a whole,
that's quite flattering. i like their philosophy. i like the writings of
lavey. i don't give a crap about anything else. simple enough?
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fucking up your own org more than anyone in SR or the ToS could possibly
fuck it up (Blumenthal, Gidney, la dee dah, Zyklon B songs, Auschwitch
Dancers - a big laugh - and pedophilia). Point being, I quotes LaVey's own
words for Bobo - who is archiving this - since no one ELSE did it for him.
Then I got 180 degrees opposite testimony from a great pal of the council
of niners of the COS - and sooooo - I figured Matty might want to chime up
and speak up on it - ahem, OFFICIALLY and all that.
And so what's the secret word of the day, hey?
assholette. it's a reference to you i've learned after lurking. i don't
have the time or will to address any of the other blather.
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HEY, Catch the PBS Wed night at 9 PM on Auschwitz - clue - it's NOT gonna
be funny, ya fascist LaVey punk.
yeah, i'm a former member of the ysa and swp in america and that qualifies
me as a fascist. you're an idiot of the highest magnitude.
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You are a COS spokesperson. How about speaking up?
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-19 05:32:26 UTC
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REPLY.
you are an assholette, oh demanding one.
Yes, I can be very demanding, dear. But the only assholes on here seems
to be you and your pals who always end up...
i hold a red card. nothing more. completely inactive. i don't know a
single satanist in this world aside from myself and a couple people (lovers,
namely) who have adopted my viewpoint on most things.
let's see. i haven't *ever* posted to this group before last night,
although i've been lurking for a few weeks. i don't know who the flock you
or anybody else *is,* let alone the idea of me having any "buddies" here.
as far as insinuating that my "buddies" are comprised of the CoS as a whole,
that's quite flattering. i like their philosophy. i like the writings of
lavey. i don't give a crap about anything else. simple enough?
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
fucking up your own org more than anyone in SR or the ToS could possibly
fuck it up (Blumenthal, Gidney, la dee dah, Zyklon B songs, Auschwitch
Dancers - a big laugh - and pedophilia). Point being, I quotes LaVey's own
words for Bobo - who is archiving this - since no one ELSE did it for him.
Then I got 180 degrees opposite testimony from a great pal of the council
of niners of the COS - and sooooo - I figured Matty might want to chime up
and speak up on it - ahem, OFFICIALLY and all that.
And so what's the secret word of the day, hey?
assholette. it's a reference to you i've learned after lurking. i don't
have the time or will to address any of the other blather.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
HEY, Catch the PBS Wed night at 9 PM on Auschwitz - clue - it's NOT gonna
be funny, ya fascist LaVey punk.
yeah, i'm a former member of the ysa and swp in america and that qualifies
me as a fascist. you're an idiot of the highest magnitude.
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BTD: Hey Tani, this guy's kind of like saying 'I'm a member of the
Democratic Party how can you say I'm not democratic' or like the Republicans
say the same thing:)
Wortenheimer
2005-01-19 05:39:44 UTC
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you are an assholette, oh demanding one.
Yes, I can be very demanding, dear. But the only assholes on here seems
to be you and your pals who always end up...
i hold a red card. nothing more. completely inactive. i don't know a
single satanist in this world aside from myself and a couple people
(lovers,
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namely) who have adopted my viewpoint on most things.
let's see. i haven't *ever* posted to this group before last night,
although i've been lurking for a few weeks. i don't know who the flock
you
Post by Wortenheimer
or anybody else *is,* let alone the idea of me having any "buddies" here.
as far as insinuating that my "buddies" are comprised of the CoS as a
whole,
Post by Wortenheimer
that's quite flattering. i like their philosophy. i like the writings of
lavey. i don't give a crap about anything else. simple enough?
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
fucking up your own org more than anyone in SR or the ToS could possibly
fuck it up (Blumenthal, Gidney, la dee dah, Zyklon B songs, Auschwitch
Dancers - a big laugh - and pedophilia). Point being, I quotes LaVey's
own
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words for Bobo - who is archiving this - since no one ELSE did it for
him.
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Then I got 180 degrees opposite testimony from a great pal of the
council
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of niners of the COS - and sooooo - I figured Matty might want to chime
up
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and speak up on it - ahem, OFFICIALLY and all that.
And so what's the secret word of the day, hey?
assholette. it's a reference to you i've learned after lurking. i don't
have the time or will to address any of the other blather.
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HEY, Catch the PBS Wed night at 9 PM on Auschwitz - clue - it's NOT
gonna
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be funny, ya fascist LaVey punk.
yeah, i'm a former member of the ysa and swp in america and that qualifies
me as a fascist. you're an idiot of the highest magnitude.
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BTD: Hey Tani, this guy's kind of like saying 'I'm a member of the
Democratic Party how can you say I'm not democratic' or like the Republicans
say the same thing:)
well, i can see that this forum is a complete waste of time. i was warned.
i'm off to lttd.
Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-19 10:39:29 UTC
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AH, LTTD - NSDAP HQ itself, which INSPIRED the great stuff on none other
than THIS place:

IS FASCISM SATANIC

http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/sat-fasc.html

ha ha. See the HPess tell the anti fascists to back off - ha ha.
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/sat-fasc-015.html

Shit man, am I in the mood to bust balls or what? Nonetheless, a good site
with a chock load of articles - done in direct response to the FASCISM "I'm
a dye hard fascist" COS hierarchical personages, ha ha.
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Wortenheimer
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REPLY.
you are an assholette, oh demanding one.
Yes, I can be very demanding, dear. But the only assholes on here seems
to be you and your pals who always end up...
i hold a red card. nothing more. completely inactive. i don't know a
single satanist in this world aside from myself and a couple people
(lovers,
Post by Wortenheimer
namely) who have adopted my viewpoint on most things.
let's see. i haven't *ever* posted to this group before last night,
although i've been lurking for a few weeks. i don't know who the flock
you
Post by Wortenheimer
or anybody else *is,* let alone the idea of me having any "buddies" here.
as far as insinuating that my "buddies" are comprised of the CoS as a
whole,
Post by Wortenheimer
that's quite flattering. i like their philosophy. i like the writings of
lavey. i don't give a crap about anything else. simple enough?
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
fucking up your own org more than anyone in SR or the ToS could possibly
fuck it up (Blumenthal, Gidney, la dee dah, Zyklon B songs, Auschwitch
Dancers - a big laugh - and pedophilia). Point being, I quotes LaVey's
own
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
words for Bobo - who is archiving this - since no one ELSE did it for
him.
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Then I got 180 degrees opposite testimony from a great pal of the
council
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
of niners of the COS - and sooooo - I figured Matty might want to chime
up
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
and speak up on it - ahem, OFFICIALLY and all that.
And so what's the secret word of the day, hey?
assholette. it's a reference to you i've learned after lurking. i don't
have the time or will to address any of the other blather.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
HEY, Catch the PBS Wed night at 9 PM on Auschwitz - clue - it's NOT
gonna
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
be funny, ya fascist LaVey punk.
yeah, i'm a former member of the ysa and swp in america and that qualifies
me as a fascist. you're an idiot of the highest magnitude.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Hey Tani, this guy's kind of like saying 'I'm a member of the
Democratic Party how can you say I'm not democratic' or like the Republicans
say the same thing:)
well, i can see that this forum is a complete waste of time. i was
warned. i'm off to lttd.
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-20 10:09:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
AH, LTTD - NSDAP HQ itself, which INSPIRED the great stuff on none other
IS FASCISM SATANIC
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/sat-fasc.html
ha ha. See the HPess tell the anti fascists to back off - ha ha.
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/sat-fasc-015.html
Shit man, am I in the mood to bust balls or what? Nonetheless, a good site
with a chock load of articles - done in direct response to the FASCISM "I'm
a dye hard fascist" COS hierarchical personages, ha ha.
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
REPLY.
you are an assholette, oh demanding one.
Yes, I can be very demanding, dear. But the only assholes on here seems
to be you and your pals who always end up...
i hold a red card. nothing more. completely inactive. i don't know a
single satanist in this world aside from myself and a couple people
(lovers,
Post by Wortenheimer
namely) who have adopted my viewpoint on most things.
let's see. i haven't *ever* posted to this group before last night,
although i've been lurking for a few weeks. i don't know who the flock
you
Post by Wortenheimer
or anybody else *is,* let alone the idea of me having any "buddies" here.
as far as insinuating that my "buddies" are comprised of the CoS as a
whole,
Post by Wortenheimer
that's quite flattering. i like their philosophy. i like the
writings
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Wortenheimer
of
lavey. i don't give a crap about anything else. simple enough?
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
fucking up your own org more than anyone in SR or the ToS could possibly
fuck it up (Blumenthal, Gidney, la dee dah, Zyklon B songs, Auschwitch
Dancers - a big laugh - and pedophilia). Point being, I quotes LaVey's
own
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
words for Bobo - who is archiving this - since no one ELSE did it for
him.
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Then I got 180 degrees opposite testimony from a great pal of the
council
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
of niners of the COS - and sooooo - I figured Matty might want to chime
up
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
and speak up on it - ahem, OFFICIALLY and all that.
And so what's the secret word of the day, hey?
assholette. it's a reference to you i've learned after lurking. i don't
have the time or will to address any of the other blather.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
HEY, Catch the PBS Wed night at 9 PM on Auschwitz - clue - it's NOT
gonna
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
be funny, ya fascist LaVey punk.
yeah, i'm a former member of the ysa and swp in america and that qualifies
me as a fascist. you're an idiot of the highest magnitude.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Hey Tani, this guy's kind of like saying 'I'm a member of the
Democratic Party how can you say I'm not democratic' or like the Republicans
say the same thing:)
well, i can see that this forum is a complete waste of time. i was
warned. i'm off to lttd.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Well I have to tell you the SR intro to this topic
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/sat-fasc-011.html
Is incomprehensible to me. The most I can make of it is that some Satanists
dress like Nazis to scare people because allegedly Satanism is designed to
scare people. Yes well I already addressed that in another post in re the
Hell's Angels who have chosen to not use Nazi regalia any more. You seem to
be saying sure go ahead now it's okay (Bush has been elected)while giving
lip service to the fact that I as a Jew and a Zionist* am deeply offended by
such things and that the US is one of the only civilized nations on Earth
that haven't regulated and often restrained such things.
Am I missing something here?

The other aspect that makes this piece subject to challenge is what I
indicated in my other post as to what you don't understand in terms of
individual sovereignty and my discussion of this with Satyr.

Fascism does not recognize any rule of law probably because Mussolini and
Hitler were too ignorant to understand the concept. Fascism is essentially
choosing some person to be dictator and that person then tells everyone in
society what the law is (that power is usually doled out to various
underlings -e.g., Judges). When society becomes so abstracted that it loses
it's foundation (The Rule of Law) Fascism is inevitable.
As far as politics goes, the Rule of Law is our politics, everything else is
electioneering for the purpose of peopling government for declaratory or
remedial statutes, enforcement provisions &c and day to day administration.
People fail to comprehend this because they have been brainwashed by White
Southern Democrats who worship and demand mob rule - i.e., majority rule
which they claim is democracy and that thus everything having to do with
such thing is politics. This is what fascism is, the only difference is that
it is more like tyranny by cabal either is the antithesis to our rule of law
and if Satanism tolerates such thing then it is obviously incompatible with
our politics.

My solution (as discussed briefly in the "For Tani" thread) is the only
solution. It also solves the confusion between fascism and elitism. I am an
elitist. There are people I will not associate with. That doesn't mean I'll
have them killed, deprive them of their rights or property, it merely means
that i hold myself apart from others which is every individual's right to
do.

This aforesaid misconception/confusion is an extension of those that attempt
to annihilate Aristocracy (followers of Aristotle and therefore classical
logic) and replace it with plutocracy -- a manner of rule by monied
interests. The two are not necessarily related nor is Aristocracy
necessarily related to what were known as the landed gentry. Sometimes
people try to understand the past and become imprisoned by it. I call that
psycho madness.

I'm an Aristocrat and essentially haven't a penny and why should I this is a
plutocracy. Even the fascists depend on them.
--
http://www.facelink.com/blazintommyd

* I'm a member of the President's Council of the World Jewish Congress, we
found Israel, we're the Conspiracy and I'm proud of it. Do you want to kill
me?
Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-20 22:17:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Well I have to tell you the SR intro to this topic
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/sat-fasc-011.html
Is incomprehensible to me.
Read further, it gets spelled out. That intro id about the "project" "Is
Fascism Satanic" that Tim Stewart Epperhart wanted to collect essays for.
This might clear up that intro
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/projectone-orig.html

The most I can make of it is that some Satanists
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
dress like Nazis to scare people because allegedly Satanism is designed to
scare people.
Not quite so. Tim, who was in the COS as an active member, personally ran
into quite a few self-admitted hard line fascists - and the HPess of that
org wrote one article to defend it. It wasn't about dress up - as you will
see if you read further. The essays are pretty good, btw.

Yes well I already addressed that in another post in re the
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Hell's Angels who have chosen to not use Nazi regalia any more. You seem to
be saying sure go ahead now it's okay (Bush has been elected)while giving
lip service to the fact that I as a Jew and a Zionist* am deeply offended by
such things and that the US is one of the only civilized nations on Earth
that haven't regulated and often restrained such things.
Am I missing something here?
Yes, big time. SR is definitely NOT saying it's OK, as the compilation of
essays and such show.
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
The other aspect that makes this piece subject to challenge is what I
indicated in my other post as to what you don't understand in terms of
individual sovereignty and my discussion of this with Satyr.
Fascism does not recognize any rule of law probably because Mussolini and
Hitler were too ignorant to understand the concept. Fascism is essentially
choosing some person to be dictator and that person then tells everyone in
society what the law is (that power is usually doled out to various
underlings -e.g., Judges). When society becomes so abstracted that it loses
it's foundation (The Rule of Law) Fascism is inevitable.
As far as politics goes, the Rule of Law is our politics, everything else is
electioneering for the purpose of peopling government for declaratory or
remedial statutes, enforcement provisions &c and day to day
administration.
People fail to comprehend this because they have been brainwashed by White
Southern Democrats who worship and demand mob rule - i.e., majority rule
which they claim is democracy and that thus everything having to do with
such thing is politics. This is what fascism is, the only difference is that
it is more like tyranny by cabal either is the antithesis to our rule of law
and if Satanism tolerates such thing then it is obviously incompatible with
our politics.
My solution (as discussed briefly in the "For Tani" thread) is the only
solution. It also solves the confusion between fascism and elitism. I am an
elitist. There are people I will not associate with. That doesn't mean I'll
have them killed, deprive them of their rights or property, it merely means
that i hold myself apart from others which is every individual's right to
do.
This aforesaid misconception/confusion is an extension of those that attempt
to annihilate Aristocracy (followers of Aristotle and therefore classical
logic) and replace it with plutocracy -- a manner of rule by monied
interests. The two are not necessarily related nor is Aristocracy
necessarily related to what were known as the landed gentry. Sometimes
people try to understand the past and become imprisoned by it. I call that
psycho madness.
I'm an Aristocrat and essentially haven't a penny and why should I this is a
plutocracy. Even the fascists depend on them.
--
http://www.facelink.com/blazintommyd
* I'm a member of the President's Council of the World Jewish Congress, we
found Israel, we're the Conspiracy and I'm proud of it. Do you want to kill
me?
You'd need to read further and see the actual essays - the intro is about
HOW the project got started and why. What do you mean yuou are the
conspiracy? What conspiracy?
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-21 05:36:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Well I have to tell you the SR intro to this topic
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/sat-fasc-011.html
Is incomprehensible to me.
Read further, it gets spelled out. That intro id about the "project" "Is
Fascism Satanic" that Tim Stewart Epperhart wanted to collect essays for.
This might clear up that intro
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/projectone-orig.html
The most I can make of it is that some Satanists
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
dress like Nazis to scare people because allegedly Satanism is designed to
scare people.
Not quite so. Tim, who was in the COS as an active member, personally ran
into quite a few self-admitted hard line fascists - and the HPess of that
org wrote one article to defend it. It wasn't about dress up - as you will
see if you read further. The essays are pretty good, btw.
Yes well I already addressed that in another post in re the
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Hell's Angels who have chosen to not use Nazi regalia any more. You seem to
be saying sure go ahead now it's okay (Bush has been elected)while giving
lip service to the fact that I as a Jew and a Zionist* am deeply
offended
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
by
such things and that the US is one of the only civilized nations on Earth
that haven't regulated and often restrained such things.
Am I missing something here?
Yes, big time. SR is definitely NOT saying it's OK, as the compilation of
essays and such show.
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
The other aspect that makes this piece subject to challenge is what I
indicated in my other post as to what you don't understand in terms of
individual sovereignty and my discussion of this with Satyr.
Fascism does not recognize any rule of law probably because Mussolini and
Hitler were too ignorant to understand the concept. Fascism is essentially
choosing some person to be dictator and that person then tells everyone in
society what the law is (that power is usually doled out to various
underlings -e.g., Judges). When society becomes so abstracted that it loses
it's foundation (The Rule of Law) Fascism is inevitable.
As far as politics goes, the Rule of Law is our politics, everything
else
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
is
electioneering for the purpose of peopling government for declaratory or
remedial statutes, enforcement provisions &c and day to day
administration.
People fail to comprehend this because they have been brainwashed by White
Southern Democrats who worship and demand mob rule - i.e., majority rule
which they claim is democracy and that thus everything having to do with
such thing is politics. This is what fascism is, the only difference is that
it is more like tyranny by cabal either is the antithesis to our rule of law
and if Satanism tolerates such thing then it is obviously incompatible with
our politics.
My solution (as discussed briefly in the "For Tani" thread) is the only
solution. It also solves the confusion between fascism and elitism. I am an
elitist. There are people I will not associate with. That doesn't mean I'll
have them killed, deprive them of their rights or property, it merely means
that i hold myself apart from others which is every individual's right to
do.
This aforesaid misconception/confusion is an extension of those that attempt
to annihilate Aristocracy (followers of Aristotle and therefore classical
logic) and replace it with plutocracy -- a manner of rule by monied
interests. The two are not necessarily related nor is Aristocracy
necessarily related to what were known as the landed gentry. Sometimes
people try to understand the past and become imprisoned by it. I call that
psycho madness.
I'm an Aristocrat and essentially haven't a penny and why should I this
is
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
a
plutocracy. Even the fascists depend on them.
--
http://www.facelink.com/blazintommyd
* I'm a member of the President's Council of the World Jewish Congress, we
found Israel, we're the Conspiracy and I'm proud of it. Do you want to kill
me?
You'd need to read further and see the actual essays - the intro is about
HOW the project got started and why. What do you mean yuou are the
conspiracy? What conspiracy?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: A conspiracy is two or more persons acting together to effectuate a
common goal like more than two Jews acted jointly to establish the
Independent Sovereign State of Israel. The organization I've indicated
membership in was and is that group. It was established in Germany in the
late 19th Century.
Blazin' Tommy D.
2005-01-21 05:49:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Well I have to tell you the SR intro to this topic
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/sat-fasc-011.html
Is incomprehensible to me.
Read further, it gets spelled out. That intro id about the "project" "Is
Fascism Satanic" that Tim Stewart Epperhart wanted to collect essays for.
This might clear up that intro
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/projectone-orig.html
[clip]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: There's no way I'm going to read all of this. The whole thing is WAY
too complicated.
Tani Jantsang ©
2005-01-22 21:58:25 UTC
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Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Blazin' Tommy D.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: Well I have to tell you the SR intro to this topic
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/sat-fasc-011.html
Is incomprehensible to me.
Read further, it gets spelled out. That intro id about the "project" "Is
Fascism Satanic" that Tim Stewart Epperhart wanted to collect essays for.
This might clear up that intro
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/projectone-orig.html
[clip]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTD: There's no way I'm going to read all of this. The whole thing is WAY
too complicated.
The essays are good, however. Bottom line - a COS (LaVey's org) member ran
into fascists in the COS. He thought it was anti-satanic. He wanted
essays. The COS hierarchy came down HARD against him for wanting to do
this - and also hated those that cooperated and helped him get the essays.
That's the whole of that part. Then there are the essays - they are good.
Dagon Productions
2005-01-19 02:09:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
REPLY.
you are an assholette, oh demanding one.
Yes, I can be very demanding, dear. But the only assholes on here seems to
be you and your pals who always end up fucking up your own org more than
anyone in SR or the ToS could possibly fuck it up (Blumenthal, Gidney, la
dee dah, Zyklon B songs, Auschwitch Dancers - a big laugh - and pedophilia).
Point being, I quotes LaVey's own words for Bobo - who is archiving this -
since no one ELSE did it for him. Then I got 180 degrees opposite testimony
from a great pal of the council of niners of the COS - and sooooo -
And so what's the secret word of the day, hey?
Ahh, trani misrepresenting a comment I made. I indulged with one "niner"
and
have only met a couple of the others and not all of them... so once
again you
"pal" reference is far from the mark. Hell even the one "niner" I know
wasn't
due to their CoS ties of which they rarely spoke of.

The secret word of the day trani is "legs"... spread the word };)

-Douglas
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Robert Leuthold
2005-01-20 04:46:15 UTC
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it's funny,if you look at it really,the one accusing the CoS of psychic
vampirism is actrually doing it(meaning Tani) and obsessing over an org she
hates,while trumpeting her own org that no one has either heard of or cares
about,except for her clique
Post by Dagon Productions
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
Post by Wortenheimer
Post by Tani Jantsang ©
REPLY.
you are an assholette, oh demanding one.
Yes, I can be very demanding, dear. But the only assholes on here seems to
be you and your pals who always end up fucking up your own org more than
anyone in SR or the ToS could possibly fuck it up (Blumenthal, Gidney, la
dee dah, Zyklon B songs, Auschwitch Dancers - a big laugh - and pedophilia).
Point being, I quotes LaVey's own words for Bobo - who is archiving this -
since no one ELSE did it for him. Then I got 180 degrees opposite testimony
from a great pal of the council of niners of the COS - and sooooo -
And so what's the secret word of the day, hey?
Ahh, trani misrepresenting a comment I made. I indulged with one "niner"
and
have only met a couple of the others and not all of them... so once
again you
"pal" reference is far from the mark. Hell even the one "niner" I know
wasn't
due to their CoS ties of which they rarely spoke of.
The secret word of the day trani is "legs"... spread the word };)
-Douglas
--
**********************************************
Dagon Productions
Chaos Magick & Occult books
http://www.dagonproductions.com
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