Discussion:
Satan, Wild Nature, and The Aeon of the Adversary
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SOD of the CoE
2004-12-14 08:38:45 UTC
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50041213 viii OM! SIVAMOON!

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I see [bobo] claiming that Satan is Wild Nature (being that which
urban humans have declared is the enemy,
not sure it is just urban humans. it seems suburban and even numerous
rural humans project this Adversary across uncontrolled perceptions.
whether Wild Nature has declared a war or not)
it does not appear so, though I have attempted in rituals to unite
the Dark Armies alongside such a Satan. I see signs of it working.
-- and in his schema, Satan is more victim than "adversary."
smear-campaign victim, but also a healthy foe or challenge
to our entire species, itself portion to said contest.
[bobo] seems to imagine that humans themselves, urban or not,
are NOT wild nature
a strong institutional push is on to 'tame' humans, so we're a mix,
primarily dependent on conditioning. recalibrate.
- in all of their terrible doings to trees, other life, etc etc.
if the numbers of humans were less the terribleness would be
rather inconsequential. how humans deal with our wild nature
(if any could be said to remain) is stuff of mysticism.
recalibrate.
...H. sapiens tend to alter the nature around them and change it
(tho it is no LESS wild except in Siva's mind) -
by rational standards, tamed things are not wild. recalibrate.
I see TOS promoting the Egyptian god Set, who has nothing to do with
Satan, to the best of my knowledge.
Yes it does - it is in all its many aspects and functions, it IS the
original archetype for the Christian Satan (E. Wallace Budge....
please produce some quote supporting this from Mr. Budge. he is dated
and some portion of his Egyptology is faulty. recalibrate.
...Afraid to FACE wild nature? ....
a blood pact rather exemplifies engagement of it. recalibrate.
That is PRECISELY why the Temple of Set insists that the
Gift of Set is the ability to go AGAINST this wild nature
and attain higher levels of being....
valuable reasons there are to oppose some parts of Satan, sure.
...Siva admits to knowing almost nothing about biology....
history and politics. recalibrate.

blessed beast!

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Tani Jantsang ©
2004-12-14 22:15:08 UTC
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I see TOS promoting the Egyptian god Set, who has nothing to do with
Satan, to the best of my knowledge.
Yes it does - it is in all its many aspects and functions, it IS the
original archetype for the Christian Satan (E. Wallace Budge....
Once more, I gave you the url - you read and then it goes in one eye and out
the other. Then you ask for it again? That tells me you don't wnat to
know.

here:
Also consider the possibility that Set-heh in Egyptian does mean "Eternal
Set," and from Egyptian Heaven and Hell, by E.A. Wallis Budge, Chapter XI -
the Eleventh Division of the Tuat, which is called Re-en-qerert-apt-khatu,
[pg. 248-9 Vol I], "In the lower register are 1. Horus (description) and 2.
A huge serpent, called the 'Everlasting SET,' standing upon his tail." And
on "[p 254-5 Vol I] Horus is expounding on those that have been "sent to
Hell" more or less, erased from existence, "....and ye shall not be able to
flee from the flames which are in the serpent SET-HEH." Budge's commentary
[pgs 177-179 Vol III]: "The region to the left of the Boat is one of fire,
and representations of it which we have in the Book Am-Tuat and the Book of
Gates may well have suggested the beliefs in a fiery hell that have come
down through the centuries to our own time. Quite near the Boat stands
Horus, holding in the left hand the snake-headed boomerang, with which he
performs deeds of magic; in front of him is the serpent SET-HEH, i.e., the
Everlasting Set, his familiar and messenger (vol. i., p. 249). Horus is
watching and directing the destruction of the bodies, souls, shadows, and
heads of the enemies of Ra, and of the damned who are in this DIVISION [of
the Tuat], which is taking place in FIVE pits of fire. The texts which refer
to the pits of fire show that the beings who were unfortunate enough to be
cast into them were hacked in pieces by the goddesses who were over them,
and then burned in the fierce fire provided by SET-HEH and the goddesses
until they were consumed. In that sense, Set is most definitely something
that fits into a more recent Christian (not Jewish) definition of Satan!

Just save it, Tyagi - stop being a black hole with info you WERE GIVEN.
Post by SOD of the CoE
please produce some quote supporting this from Mr. Budge. he is dated
and some portion of his Egyptology is faulty. recalibrate.
Just did. SAVE IT this time. I produced it before - many times.
Post by SOD of the CoE
...Afraid to FACE wild nature? ....
a blood pact rather exemplifies engagement of it. recalibrate.
That is PRECISELY why the Temple of Set insists that the
Gift of Set is the ability to go AGAINST this wild nature
and attain higher levels of being....
valuable reasons there are to oppose some parts of Satan, sure.
Some of us think of the Satan as the primary thing that ENBALES man to excel
past that of a dumb primitive brute at the mercy of the elements - a being
capable of inventing technology OUTSIDE OF man's own nature. Remember, even
in the Xian myth, Eden was a place where man was wild nature with other
nature. The Serpent changed all that NECESSITATING man to find ways to
invent industry and technology. Prometheus - same thing.
Post by SOD of the CoE
...Siva admits to knowing almost nothing about biology....
Our view is primarily socioBIOLOGICAL. Expose the animal H.sapiens to
certain things, and the animal H.sapiens DOES what it does. It's got
nothing to do with religion or beliefs. You shouldn't have snipped out the
post - you should have read it and tried to understans what is being SAID
there. Learn something.
Post by SOD of the CoE
history and politics. recalibrate.
blessed beast!
boboroshi at-sign satanservice.org: Satanic Outreach Director
Church of Euthanasia: http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/
TOKUS WEBLINKS: http://dmoz.org/Bookmarks/B/boboroshi/
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blessed beast!
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SOD of the CoE
2004-12-15 10:20:30 UTC
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50041215 viii om Hail Satan!

"Tani Jantsang ©" <***@SPAMpost.com> quotes some Budge:
# ...The texts which refer to the pits of fire show that the beings
# who were unfortunate enough to be cast into them were hacked in
# pieces by the goddesses who were over them, and then burned in
# the fierce fire provided by SET-HEH and the goddesses until they
# were consumed. In that sense, Set is most definitely something
# that fits into a more recent Christian (not Jewish) definition
# of Satan!

my understanding is that

Today, Egyptologists have an opinion of Budge similar to
modern psychologists' opinion of Sigmund Freud -- as in,
they don't think very highly of his theories and
interpretations, even though he was an early pioneer in
the field.
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and I notice that HAnsgar Kelly and JBRussell neither cite from
Budge in their demonological studies I just peered through again.
thanks for the text. very interesting.

#># ...Siva admits to knowing almost nothing about biology....
#>
#> history and politics. recalibrate.
#
# Our view is primarily socioBIOLOGICAL....

yes, I gather you have little intersection with religion per se.
that you struggle with Satanists is therefore peculiar.

blessed beast!

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